Comment by DenisM
9 hours ago
You’ve gone from extreme to another. From “it’s just a tool that be skillfully wielded” “to it’s an agent which do the task you gave it”.
There’s another pov where I am providing agent with tools/setup/etc to amplify its abilities, and that does require skill.
> You’ve gone from extreme to another. From “it’s just a tool that be skillfully wielded” “to it’s an agent which do the task you gave it”.
I'm responding to your comment because I need your help in rephrasing my comment above to make my point more clear, because the way I wrote it obviously misled you.
No, I didn't say the extreme (what would the extreme even be?).
What I literally wrote down is what I said, which is that using anything (be it a tool that is not autonomous or a fully autonomous agent like a very smart, capable human being) requires skill.
Imagine you and I are working on a team project together. In majority of real-life situations I'm not just going to point at a writing with my fingers to you and from there you figure out what needs to get done and you would magically do it without any further feedback. That's not how anything remotely useful and productive in this world works.
What's more likely to happen is we have a conversation, figure out how to break the task down, together, how to coordinate, how to cooperate, and how to stitch our results back together to complete the job.
As you can see this requires skill at every point.
Hence, the point I was making is that the article is either clickbait or the author doesn't understand how the world works: anything remotely useful and productive in this world requires skill (be it the use of a dumb tool like a welding torch or cooperation, working with something as smart as a very capable autonomous agent or human being).
> because I need your help in rephrasing my comment above to make my point more clear
Sure. The bulk of your post reads as sharp criticism of “AI is a tool and needs requisite skills to operate”, promoting the idea that “AGents will do the thing for you”. Suddenly the last paragraph landed with “both AI and tools need requisite skills to operate”. By the time I got to the last paragraph I already made up my mind about your message and the contrast between two positions was far too small to jolt my attention.
The key improvement you can make is to spell out juxtaposition earlier.
Reverse engineering your original argument, and with benefit of your second comment, the juxtaposition is that the skill of wielding a hammer and the skill of operating AI are on the opposite ends of control / cooperation spectrum. The distance is in fact so huge that using hammers at starting point is naive at best and clickbait at worstt.
This brings me to my second point. Both of your comments are emotionally charged with incredulity. This did not put me, or you, into the mode of curious thinking.
As to the substance. If we were to stick with the frame of control / cooperation I would take a position closer to yours. The author is not clueless, they are early in their “journey” from left to right. We all are early, meaning that no matter where you are there is someone else right of you.
However, I found that frame far too constrictive yand left it behind about a month ago. I’d be happy to elaborate if you’re still reading. :)