Comment by thewonderfulmrp
25 days ago
300$ yikes. I'm amazed. And this thing can't even do 120 fps. :-(
Did the old one also not have Dolby vision/HDR10/Atmos? What is this cinematic stuff? What are we missing here?
Why would I need CPU/GPU performance on an Apple TV? I'm genuinely confused. Is it to play video games? If I want to play video games, I can pay a bit more and get a used playstation I suppose. I genuinely don't understand this product anymore.
+1. I was waiting to buy this, but it doesn't really have anything I want over my existing apple tv (which I really like). I was going to add one for a second television, but its just too expensive. I will stick with the Roku there (which I really don't love, at this point, its slow and has lots of ads).
HDR support on Apple TV is fairly hit or miss depending on the player you are using.
HDR10+ is supported in some players (infuse) but not others (plex) and will fallback to HDR10. Profile 7 DV files do not play properly on Apple TV period even though it will display the DV logo (though frankly very few devices can do this). Profile 5 and 8 DV files will play properly depending on the player and the content mapping level in the content (2.9 is well supported but 4.0 causes HDR10 fallback or black screens in some cases). Apple TV also doesn't support HD audio passthrough great.
And now that the Nvidia Shield Pro is the same price, it makes the Apple TV an even tougher sell.
Does it? The Nvidia Shield Pro is 7+ years old at this point. I'd maybe agree if they released a new one, but that seems unlikely.
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I thought nvidia stopped supporting or producing shields many years ago
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I've used Steam Link to play games from my Steam library on the Apple TV using a video game controller and it worked surprisingly well. You still might want the Playstation (or Switch or XBox). Just depends on what games you want to play.
Moonlight works really well on the ATV4K too. I stream 4K@60FPS with HDR and surround sound from my PC using the Apollo fork of Sunshine (creates a virtual display since I normally game at 1440p on my attached monitor).
I'm quite "technical" so to speak yet trying to properly set up HDR in Sunshine was rough.
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I found the input latency to be much worse than the PC connected to the same TV, for whatever reason.
I thought I surely was imagining it, so I revisited it 6 months or a year later, and, yes, the input latency from the controller is substantially worse on the Apple TV.
Does your TV (not the Apple TV) have a "game" mode picture mode in its settings?
I had unacceptable input lag when streaming to my Apple TV 4k, but switching the TV it into "game" mode fixes it entirely. I just need to swap it over to game mode when I hop into Steam Link or Moonlight.
It has a powerful CPU/GPU because those chips are what they have on hand and they can control the whole stack. It's likely cheaper for them to just shove their overpowered chips into things that don't need them than setup manufacturing for a net new lower power chip.
Their Studio Displays have an A19 in them too (A19 Pro for the XDR)
I’m been wondering that same thing while developing tvOS app and testing across hardware. What does this new model offer the last 3 didn’t??
Eg Pixel Brite works great on all versions of AppleTV including FEL playback on 1st gen
The only thing I haven’t been able to do with the older models is upscaling content at the same fidelity levels. But the results are very subtle either way and not all that compelling IMO.
[0] https://pixelbrite.site
It looks like it does? https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102339 and https://support.apple.com/en-us/102218
List is the same as the incumbent model :-( I was hoping for a lossless Atmos TrueHD pass through support.
Right! I just remembered why I was still on my Nvidia Shield Pro, Apple TV 4K doesn't have the lossless pass through.
That's crazy
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Used PS5 prices are spiking with the GTA6 coming out and the chip shortage. They are $550 for the base and $1400 for pro right now, so still nearly double the apple tv (but of course, you can play GTA6)
My lad went and bought a PS5 six months ago in preparation for GTA6 because he could see the prices of them were rising by the month.
A lot of people complaining about the lack of 120fps, but I've no idea who that's even for? Games?
> used playstation
Unfortunately PS5 prices have shot up due to everything else.
> A lot of people complaining about the lack of 120fps, but I've no idea who that's even for? Games?
Everything. It's like pixel density, going from 96ppi to 220 is just better, and once you first see it, you just start wanting it everywhere. My Mac, iPhone and iPad all have 120Hz at this point, so of course I want to see it in more Apple products - it feels amazing compared to 60. It just does.