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Comment by pnw

5 days ago

Yes, within about 30 minutes. They are basically useless for theft prevention as a result. Apple nerfed the functionality after someone used it for stalking. You'll notice there is no mention of theft prevention in the marketing materials anymore.

Apple even provide a handy Android app for locating them.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trac...

There never was mention of theft prevention. The release day marketing was about losing your keys in the couch. Day one ios would alert you if a tag was tracking you but it took a while for them to collaborate with Android on it.

The societal harm from allowing cheap silent tracking of people is greater than the benefit of recovering stolen bags.

  • Apple skirt around the issue now, but what is the one of primary scenarios for "lost luggage, keys, bicycles, bags" if not theft?

    They have also done videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJwdhWM9d0Y where they show Find My as a tool for theft prevention, although in that case it's a Macbook not an Airtag.

  • It's also kinda weird to use it for anti-theft when you think about how AirTags work. They aren't GPS, rather all these Apple devices are seeing it with Bluetooth and snitching on the location.

  • maybe they could set something up where local pd handles the tracking if/when necessary

    • That sounds like yet another reason not to use AirTags, since they now give location access to the authorities...

      No, I do not want the solution to this problem to be adding AirTags to the government panopticon.

> Apple even provide a handy Android app for locating them.

Took them half a year and public pressure to develop something. 3 years for a joint standard (DULT) with google after google developed something by themselves.

There is always pressure required for those things...

> after someone used it for stalking.

Many, many people used them for stalking. I personally know somebody whose estranged husband did. I try to keep myself pretty ignorant of Apple products, and it was the first time I got a detailed explanation of how they worked.