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Comment by Phoney2123

4 days ago

Meat is not the problem. The problem is the standard sides and processed food people usually eat with the meat. Like burger buns, seed oils, food in frying oil .. and so on.

Eating clean proper ruminant meat will not be bad for you. What you eat with it is another issue..

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Nursie  4 days ago

> seed oils

Oh dear, someone gets their health advice from streamers and podcasters rather than actual health professionals.

The seed oil thing is nonsense.

> Eating clean proper ruminant meat will not be bad for you

Eating too much beef is bad for you in a variety of ways, it's associated with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes.

It's frickin' delicious, but it's not some panacea superfood, quite the opposite.

  • Phoney2123  4 days ago

    Oh dear, someone believes everything they read on how something is not bad for you. Tell me how seed oils isnt associated with all our health style issues?

    For one, every way I eat is based on trial and error. I've read many books and studies throughout the years. I have tried a whole food vegan approach for 6 months in 2020, which was terrible for my IBS. I struggled with ibs for years until I started figuring out stuff. I come from a family that is chronic in their seed oils use, and other processed food. When I tried to cut it out from my diet completely, I had improvements in my gut, as well as my skin and migraine. I am diagnosed with idiopathic urticaria, migraine, and IBS.

    Solving my issues has been my main goal since I was a 115kg heavy teenager under 165cm. I managed to lose all the extra weight, but not without all my problems mentioned. Therefore I started experimenting from 2017. The last 4 years has been amazing regarding health and diet.I mainly eat ketogenic diet, and no seed oils at all. Only carb I do eat occasionally is potato. Potato seems to not trigger anything for me. Current weight is 86kg, and been maintaing around this for years now based on my gym schedule.

    I don't care about what streamers says at all. Unless they have tried it themselves for longer than 90 days, then it is invalid in my opinion. Just assuming that my advice is based on advice from streamers and podcasters is plain stupidity. If I can create the food myself from ingridients and animals around me. Then it also means humans did for ten thousands of years prior. Seed oils did not even exist before modern times. I do not count olive oil as seed oil when I say this.

    Disclaimer: I have spent hundreds on hours on reading shit like this. How much time did you spend on the topic food? Did you transform yourself from trial and error?

    • rinconrex  4 days ago

      > Tell me how seed oils isnt associated with all our health style issues?

      Ok, smoking, air pollution, mining runoff and water table poisoning, industrial waste, low-nutrient density foods, processed foods, sugary foods, red meat, Soda, energy drinks, lack of preventative care, lack in general of practical and affordable healthcare, alcohol, I could go on with hundreds of other things. But sure, seed oils are the problem. All of these are much more harmful to society than seed oils. Sure, are they used in excess? I'll grant that, but replacing them with animal fats is awful.

      Linseed oil (flaxseed oil) is high in ALA and omega-6 fats, it could cause a REDUCTION in inflammation in some cases. It has the best omega-3:omega-6 ratio I know, and plenty of others are not harmful.

      It sounds like you found something that works for you, but please keep the misinformation out of this convo.

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    • weird-eye-issue  4 days ago

      > Tell me how seed oils isnt associated with all our health style issues?

      All the big meta-analysis studies show it isn't really bad for you. Do you have a study to show the contrary?

xvxvx  4 days ago

Hot take of the year. It’s not the meat, it’s the potato salad. Stick to your day job and leave the cancer studies to the professionals.