Sometimes you think you’ve been accused of everything you could be accused of. Wonders never cease!
> The "moderation by less", as well as the guidelines, are both farcical in nature. They've given way to ruination of an otherwise decent tech discussion forum
The guidelines have been constant (with minor updates) for most of the two decades HN has existed. Dan’s a moderator for 14 years and I’ve been one for several. Both of us have been active participants almost since the beginning. When did the ruination begin?
Your comment seems a generic vent, largely unrelated to the parent comment but if you have any actionable suggestions you’re welcome to email us.
> Your comment seems a generic vent, largely unrelated to the parent comment
There it is, the "off topic" play. Well done, Tom.
If you'd put anywhere near the amount of attention in moderating the site for over all quality that you put into my "largely unrelated" comment, this entire comment thread would not exist. Think it over.
Please don’t insinuate that I’m “playing”. It’s a slimy tactic, not an earnest contribution to a conversation. You opened this subthread with an accusation that we’re putting our thumb on the scale for the CCP. Yes, it breaks the guidelines, along with basic decency. The only reason this site still exists for people to bemoan that it’s not as good as it used to be (which people have been saying since about three months after it started) is that we have guidelines and uphold them in a way that people can trust, often against pressure from many different people with all kinds of agendas. As I said, if you have any actionable suggestions you’re welcome to email them but all I see is someone complaining about quality whilst having no concern for the quality of their own contributions here. If you don’t like the guidelines you should take your own advice and find a site that’s more to your liking.
FWIW as someone in silicon valley, this really isn't the silicon valley mindset. HN represents a sort of messy combination of many different tech tribes, but I will say its depiction of silicon valley is largely that of someone who reads too much tabloid coverage of it. It's very much the feeling one gets about silicon valley by reading Techcrunch articles without actually being here.
I actually think it's a bit dangerous to try and understand SV from HN comments, in the same way that trying to learn about an event by watching a fictional adaptation of it can often confuse more than educate. The goal of the comments here aren't for SV to chat anymore and it hasn't been for a very long time, for better or for worse.
Twitter is closer to what you'll get among founder and hype circles in silicon valley, but even that isn't a good pulse of what engineers here actually think. The public web is just too adversarial a place for most folks to want to hang out anymore and silicon valley has been so deeply politicized in the news that a lot of people just don't want to air their opinions in public anymore. My suggestion is to save up some money and just come here and visit for a week or two, go to events, rant to a few graybeards, that kind of thing. You'll get a much more authentic look.
> Xi's minions are watching.
Sometimes you think you’ve been accused of everything you could be accused of. Wonders never cease!
> The "moderation by less", as well as the guidelines, are both farcical in nature. They've given way to ruination of an otherwise decent tech discussion forum
The guidelines have been constant (with minor updates) for most of the two decades HN has existed. Dan’s a moderator for 14 years and I’ve been one for several. Both of us have been active participants almost since the beginning. When did the ruination begin?
Your comment seems a generic vent, largely unrelated to the parent comment but if you have any actionable suggestions you’re welcome to email us.
> Your comment seems a generic vent, largely unrelated to the parent comment
There it is, the "off topic" play. Well done, Tom.
If you'd put anywhere near the amount of attention in moderating the site for over all quality that you put into my "largely unrelated" comment, this entire comment thread would not exist. Think it over.
Please don’t insinuate that I’m “playing”. It’s a slimy tactic, not an earnest contribution to a conversation. You opened this subthread with an accusation that we’re putting our thumb on the scale for the CCP. Yes, it breaks the guidelines, along with basic decency. The only reason this site still exists for people to bemoan that it’s not as good as it used to be (which people have been saying since about three months after it started) is that we have guidelines and uphold them in a way that people can trust, often against pressure from many different people with all kinds of agendas. As I said, if you have any actionable suggestions you’re welcome to email them but all I see is someone complaining about quality whilst having no concern for the quality of their own contributions here. If you don’t like the guidelines you should take your own advice and find a site that’s more to your liking.
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> lobsters
Never been invited, but I've also never felt smart enough for that community. I'm glad I can read it though!
TBH I come to HN to understand US silicon valley mindset. difficult to get a more distilled version of that in other places.
FWIW as someone in silicon valley, this really isn't the silicon valley mindset. HN represents a sort of messy combination of many different tech tribes, but I will say its depiction of silicon valley is largely that of someone who reads too much tabloid coverage of it. It's very much the feeling one gets about silicon valley by reading Techcrunch articles without actually being here.
I actually think it's a bit dangerous to try and understand SV from HN comments, in the same way that trying to learn about an event by watching a fictional adaptation of it can often confuse more than educate. The goal of the comments here aren't for SV to chat anymore and it hasn't been for a very long time, for better or for worse.
Twitter is closer to what you'll get among founder and hype circles in silicon valley, but even that isn't a good pulse of what engineers here actually think. The public web is just too adversarial a place for most folks to want to hang out anymore and silicon valley has been so deeply politicized in the news that a lot of people just don't want to air their opinions in public anymore. My suggestion is to save up some money and just come here and visit for a week or two, go to events, rant to a few graybeards, that kind of thing. You'll get a much more authentic look.
been there done that twice! But probably SV is different now than it was on my visits on 2013 and 2017
Am, this is 80% Indians with most of them from India.
not sure what is the source for this. I'm just a latino posting from Ireland tho.
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