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Comment by alberth

3 days ago

I recall dual booting BeOS circa 1999/2000, on my 486dx2-66.

It was shockingly performant, especially with anything graphical.

The difficulty was no apps.

Brings back fond memories, nonetheless.

There were a few apps, a word processor, a 3D modeling and rendering application, some media players, a basic DAW and so on .. but the web browser situation kind of wasn’t so great, and there were still holes in the OS where future features had been promised, a bit too long imho ..

(Disclaimer: you can pry my still-functioning BeBox from my cold dead hands.. okay, I admit, I only use it a couple times a year just to be sure it still boots..)

  • I've been told that, circa 1996 or so, there were a lot of holes in the OS. It demoed well, but…

    Related: I've been enjoying, the Designed in California podcast [1]. Link below is "Part 3" wherein Apple is circling the drain in the mid 1990's (when I started at Apple, BTW) and is desperately looking outside Apple for the operating system they hope will save the company. Be (and Jean-Louis Gassée) look like they will win:

    [1] https://youtu.be/5IFxwnXASyQ

  • Reminds me I should probably make sure mine still boots, been a few years now.

    Everytime I have to re-find all of the adapters for the keyboard, mouse and monitor. Always amazed how fast it boots when I do get it going.

It had a decent number of apps, I drove it as my primary OS for a while.

Ended up using Linux, but it was a great OS for its time.

I'm fairly certain that BeOS never supported the 486

  • Specifically, the BeOS required support for the rtdsc instruction for its timing, and that was only available on the Pentium chips or later.

    • Whoops, you're right. I was confused which machine I had BeOS on.

      This was my Pentium III.

      My 486 was the machine immediately before my Pentium III.

      I installed BeOS when I got my new Pentium III in 1999/2000.

It was ridiculously fast on my family’s Dimension 4100 tower, which had a 750Mhz PIII in it. The 98SE install that machine shipped with was glacial in comparison, and though Win2K shrunken the gap dramatically it still wasn’t as fast as BeOS.

I was able to find a decent number of apps on BeBits but a lot of stuff was missing.

  • Was blazing fast even on my 450MHz PIII. But QNX was equally fast too on the same machine, if not faster. I think I enjoyed using QNX more at the time overall. Oh, and DOS too, late 90s/early 00s DOS was surprisingly decent with tons of cool thirdparty apps. There was even a quirky graphical web browser called Arachne that I thoroughly enjoyed using.

> It was shockingly performant, especially with anything graphical.

I had the same experience.

Only few things came close since: QNX, my M1 MBP when it was new and a fresh MXLinux installation (no idea how they do it, maybe some low latency scheduler?)

Those felt similarly instant GUI-wise as BeOS did, while unfortunately current MacOS and Win11 feel glacial compared to it.

  • Try MiDesktop (modern port of KDE 1.x/QT 2.x) - had the same experience, everything is LIGHTNING fast, going back to standard xfce/plasma/whatever feels glacial

> difficulty was no apps

Well, how fortunate we are now, being able to do simplified coding through LLMs. AROS and Haiku and MenuetOS (etc.) could get a boost in software availability soon.