Comment by bittercynic
1 day ago
I very much doubt the machine we saw flying was 1000kg+. It was either MUCH lighter, supported by cleverly hidden cables, or some other trickery. The dramatic lighting isn't just for visual effect, it makes it easier to hide the reality of the demonstration.
If there was a live audience anywhere near that stage they wouldn't have been able to use thrusters to fly something that actually weighs as much as a car.
What cable arrangement would you propose to move a car in that way? I think it would be easier to do with gas thrusters than with cables. They'd get tangled in each other.
I don't pretend to know the details of the show, but if it was actually doing what's implied I don't think the lighting would have been set up to hide so much.
To even entertain the possibility that they would use cables is ridiculous, to say the least.
I have more belief this trim will be made available commercially without significant changes (which is to say "not much belief") than belief you know enough about what was done to e.g. claim what the lighting is for that authoritatively.
To be fair: it wasn't really flying. More like it was "falling with style."
More like jumping. It was clearly able to lift off from the ground.
Do you normally decelerate before you land when you’re jumping?
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It had 4700kg of downforce. It would’ve been quite a feat to make a vehicle (or prop, call it whatever you like) like that less than 1 tonne.
How do you know it had that much downforce?
They said it's under 700kg in an interview
That is not lot of batteries is it? So range would be quite sad... Especially at racing speeds.
The original McMurtry prototype was under 1000KG. What we're seeing here is essentially still a concept car. There's almost no chance it comes to market how we're seeing it now.
I thought they said 1700kg (Hagerty video)
The audience wasn't that close.
Man, you guys are nuts. Cables? really?
Remember when Elon announced a humanoid robot by using a dancer in a robot costume? Seems reasonable that he would have some "technical assistance" to make his stage show look great. No idea if it was cables or not, but reasonable people can doubt the veracity of the theatrics.
A dancer dressed in a robot costume was not being played off as a robot, and is not evidence of cables, nor is it evidence of a tendency to fake demos.
It’s strange that people need to convince themselves that this is fake.
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It was a clear joke.