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Comment by vunderba

1 day ago

I've been running it through tests on my local machine. The Text-to-Image component is VERY poor. It's not a good sign when the stock ComfyUI Flux3 Klein template with built-in config/prompts produces SD 1.5 levels of half-melted faces and various other body horror.

Flux 2 Klein 9b also had anatomical issues as well, but this one feels practically lobotomized.

https://imgpb.com/wDGGs

That looks worse than Flux 2.

What the heck are they doing?

Is this fast/cheap at the pareto frontier? Doesn't really work if humans look deformed.

  • I honestly don’t know what the hell BFL was thinking with this release. There’s idle conjecture that they may have been too heavy-handed when removing even the slightest risqué images from the training data, and as a result the final product has such a grossly poor understanding of basic human anatomy that no amount of LoRAs is going to be able to patch it up.

    It’s bafflingly worse than other comparably sized ones: Qwen-Image 2.1 7B, Z-Image Turbo 6B which was released practically a year ago, even its own predecessor Flux 2 Klein 9b.

    Even if we concede that the Klein variants are intended more as editor models, the results I've seen on Reddit aren't that impressive either.

    I feel like they just handed their collective heads on a platter over to the team over at Krea especially since Krea 3 addresses the major limitation of Krea 2 which was strictly text-to-image only.

    • They don’t just filter out images in the dataset, but also have said they do targeted training and RL to neuter the model’s capability’s NSFW capability.

      Safetymaxxing at the expense of benign output quality is sad to see.

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  • Image models that do porn are a red ocean market, they're thinking outside the box by making a model specialized for body horror.

  • >What the heck are they doing?

    European edit model cannot make it easy to nudify people… they lobotomize it, it’s trash, Mission Accomplished!

    Another reason that China is pulling ahead daily. They can leave in some anatomy and not knee cap their own product, leave in IP, and give away the model so as to undercut API/credit sales of US and EU models.

    Finally… the Neo Puritan death march is having a direct financial toll.