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Comment by yoz-y

1 day ago

Would be nice if articles defined the requirements to be a “you”.

The 'you' this article--and other articles like this--mentions, doesn't definitely include you, nor me, nor people like us.

Recently, Jensen Huang reportedly said he doesn't know where he lives (the address) with a straight face. This 'you' situation here is kind of like the Jensen situation: neither party understands what it's like to be the other party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

  • This is actually useful. I didn’t know that generic “you” meant “one”. I always interpreted it as “you the reader” and felt desperate once a week when reading articles like these.

    • As a native English speaker, I interpret it as “you the reader”. Or maybe I should say, I don’t intuit any material difference between “you the reader” and “any given reader” or “one”. I think your original comment is a good critique of the headline.

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    • It is an abstraction: "you" immediately, but not just you specifically, hence any abstract "objected" person (even the first person taken reflectively as a mental instance).

    • >This is actually useful. I didn’t know that generic “you” meant “one”. I always interpreted it as “you the reader” and felt desperate once a week when reading articles like these.

      It does mean "you, the reader" or "you, any random reader from my intended audience" (e.g. fellow PhDs) in articles like these.

      Using it to mean "one" is a different use, in more formal talk.

    • Interesting. Are you a native English speaker? You in the general case is used quite a lot and I wouldn't be able to handle every single article or reference using that to mean to refer to me specifically.

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  • My guess is comment meant that in the context of the headline "you" normally would refer to the average Joe on the street; in this case, it means the average Joe who has a PhD in math, CS, or whatever. It all certainly went over my head and probably 95% (or slightly less than that given this is HN) of the people who clicked the link. But I would take the headline as a compliment that I don't deserve.

    • I read it as “it’s possible for (some)one”, not as “it’s possible for (every)one”.

"You could have invented..."

Oh you know there is gonna be maths in this one. (clicks link)

"Here are the terms we will use throughout: a 'memory store' is a function f..."

Yes. Ha ha! Yes!

  • Were you hoping they would explain what is essentially a rather sophisticated math structure without using any... math?

    • You can use math AND spend a few lines explaining the non-trivial syntax. It wouldn't be hard to do in this case and since the article is clearly meant for a large audience, it's a mistake from the author to gloss over various relevant definitions.