Comment by YZF
2 days ago
China has stolen x1000000 secrets from the US. Everyone spies on everyone. Israel relatively less. So that assumption is just baseless.
"Has violated every international law". Baseless. Violates less "international laws" than most western countries, not to speak of the rest of the world. I mean "international law" isn't really a thing, it's a series of treaties.
Called non-Jews "human animals". Just the Hamas and the perpetrators of Oct 7th. And rightly so. I mean animal is a compliment to those people. (all humans are animals really).
I don't know where you're getting all of this from. But it's an alternate reality. It is not factual. It is putting Israel under a microscope when most of the world behaves much worse. There are dozens of countries with much worse human rights violations than Israel is even accused of. And many of those accusations are outright lies. That's not to say every Israeli soldier is perfect or that Israel is perfect, but it's certainly better than e.g. anything the west did when it went after ISIS/ISIL or Al Qaeda or pretty much any other war waged by the west. And the west is better than the rest of the world by far.
"Has killed thousands of journalists, doctors, nurses and NGO staff without even trying to pretend that they care." -> totally false again. Many of these were Hamas combatants, e.g.: https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-press-files/does-the-id...
You are just echoing propaganda here. And that's the reality of why people hate Israel. Because they are bombarded by propaganda that tells them to hate Israel. If you actually are able to zoom out of that you will see it as well. That plus antisemitism.
EDIT: You are right that Israel isn't spending a ton of cycles trying to get e.g. Europe and Americans to "like it". Between the choice of e.g. winning the war in Gaza and e.g. giving up to Biden's demands (e.g.) Israel has chosen that it must win the war. The American left, media, and universities, e.g. are structurally biased against Israel. They are regurgitating cold war USSR narratives. This is the result of more than two decades of anti-Israeli propaganda. Israel sometimes has to cut its losses. It can't out compete the resources of Qatar, Russia, and China e.g. who are out to splinter the US by whatever means possible. It could do better but between "making friends" and a decisive win against Hamas which is crucial for its future security it will pick the decisive win.
Look at the media coverage regarding Israel's continued pressure on Hamas since the ceasefire. Israel keeps eliminating Hamas commanders, it's eliminating people who were part of the Oct 7th raid into Israel, it's eliminating infrastructure used for military purposes, it's eliminating people who have held hostages. What the media is reporting is simply that Israel is "violating the ceasefire" and "killing Palestinians". That narrative is false. If you believe it then you're going to "hate Israel" as you are programmed to do. But Israel like any other country has the right to win against Hamas in this war Hamas started.
EDIT2: Also reality is complex. So we do have things like an extremist right wing government who is turning a blind eye to violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. However that tends to be blown out of proportion. We see western media simply not reporting on Palestinian violence against Israelis. Just like they didn't report Hezbollah's attacks on northern Israel. The evacuation of the population there. And generally anything that puts Israel in a possible light as being the one defending itself. So if you consume simply a one sided picture you're going to end up with a one sided picture view. And the wrong view. You won't understand e.g. why Israel went into Lebanon if you never heard about the scale of attacks on Israel originating from Lebanon. Israel isn't always right, and ofcourse attacks on innocents are never justified, but those are some small pieces of a big picture, and you're only getting those pieces. From Gaza you are basically getting 100% Hamas controlled views which the media repeats as facts (journalists, doctors, etc.). When media talks about Palestinians in the west bank it also immediately whitewashes everyone into civilians. In fact there are armed factions operating in the West Bank and a lot of the overall violence (not the settlers vs. random innocent) is towards dismantling those.
Maybe the downvoters can actually provide some real sort of evidence to support their case. If Israel "steals more secrets from the US than China" as is asserted let's see that proven. If human rights in Israel are worse than lessay China, or Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, or Qatar, lets see something to support that. Well- that something doesn't exist.
Here's some actual data, human rights index: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/human-rights-index-vdem?t...
Worst ten:
North Korea 0.08 0.02 -0.06 -71%
Afghanistan 0.12 0.04 -0.08 -67%
Eritrea 0.05
Nicaragua 0.08
Myanmar 0.10
Turkmenistan 0.11
Laos 0.16 0.14 -0.02 -9%
Palestine/Gaza 0.17
Tajikistan 0.17
Equatorial Guinea 0.17
But haters will hate.