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Comment by dgacmu

8 hours ago

It's not but there's a lot of historical evidence that those situations are more likely to produce research that looks favorible to the sponsoring company. So it means you have to be a little more careful when looking at those results.

What evidence are you talking about? Do you think industrial scientists collaborating with academics and vice-versa is unusual?

  • In addition to the funding bias wikipedia article someone else already cited:

    https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.MR...

    > Sponsorship of drug and device studies by the manufacturing company leads to more favorable efficacy results and conclusions than sponsorship by other sources. Our analyses suggest the existence of an industry bias that cannot be explained by standard 'Risk of bias' assessments.

    And no! It's not unusual, nor does it mean the results are wrong. It just means there's a known bias towards results that favor the sponsor's interests that needs to be taken into account when evaluating the research. Again, that doesn't make it wrong. But it should make you cautious before thinking that a single study (in a very specific sub-population, at that) is necessarily going to generalize. It might. I hope it does! GLP-1's are awesome. But cautiously.

    • This is a federally funded study. Says so in the bright yellow “Key takeaways” box at the top of TFA.

      But ok, sure, drug companies bad. Man hn is really turning into Reddit these days.

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  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_bias

    • Academic research is subject to dozens of potentially corrupting biases, named and otherwise. We still do it and get great benefit from it.

      Again, what’s the evidence that this research in particular should be suspect? It looks a lot like all the other research that goes on in this space. Experimenting with biological systems & real humans is expensive, even when you’re mostly doing data collection. It needs funding!

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