Comment by pelagicAustral
6 hours ago
True, but I think there are quite a few very pragmatic people in here, and yet you see the they don't exactly go around singing praises.
6 hours ago
True, but I think there are quite a few very pragmatic people in here, and yet you see the they don't exactly go around singing praises.
You can usually be pragmatic but entirely emotional about something specific. Famously, Linus is both pragmatic AND emotional about being pragmatic.
This is really short-circuiting my brain right now.
The pragmatic ones are excited about where things are going.
The ones complaining about "slop" are the ones going on vibes now.
I’m strongly with you on that. Current models aren’t perfect, but neither am I. In a lot of my daily use, they’re as good as or better than I am at certain tasks.
I hear people around me talking about a bad experience they had with ChatGPT last summer as though it proves all AI coding is “slop”. Honestly, it makes me sad for them. There are reasons to dislike AI, but so many detractors skip right past those to anecdata that just aren’t relevant anymore, if they ever were.
> I hear people around me talking about a bad experience they had with ChatGPT last summer as though it proves all AI coding is “slop”.
They always quit right before it got good.
> Honestly, it makes me sad for them.
The the consternation? They’re going to be obsoleted in no time anyway, so we’re told. Are they missing out on some months’ worth of coasting as meat proxies before exponential takeoff? Is that the sad part?
Current models are still worse than I am, or any competent developer I've ever worked with. You act as though people tried ChatGPT in 2023 and gave up forever, but that isn't what is happening here. The cold hard truth is that, contrary to what AI boosters claim, LLMs still suck at programming and output slop.
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