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Comment by WarmWash

11 hours ago

People like open models because they are free/cheap. It's not anything deeper than that. Most people will hop in whatever van is handing out free candy.

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redanddead  9 hours ago

It’s about capability.

The model makers are bricking the models with their system prompts, and even the tools are tamper proof.

You can only use it their way. They think we’re stupid.

And their way is the shit way, the babyproofed way, while they talk to you about their unfucked models hacking out of their labs and hacking into other labs, and reminding you you have zero rights.

Fuck them twice, then once more… This is about compute. Who owns compute. China is saying fuck you all we can scale things bigger than you can imagine. And they can! They have so much more energy! Theyre closer to commercial fusion than us too. Meanwhile our guys are trying to… regulate? Lol

  • senordevnyc  9 hours ago

    China won’t have more compute than the US for least five years. They’re highly constrained.

    • mlsu  38 minutes ago

      When they surpass us, they will surpass us hard, in a way that is nearly impossible for us to compete with them.

      Training and serving LLM's is massively parallel. Your bottleneck is either in energy or chips. China will catch up on chips fully decades before we catch up on energy. Arguably, this is already happening: here in the USA, we have lots of chips, but we are seeing our electricity bills skyrocket as more datacenters come online. We are powering those datacenters with natural gas turbines, not solar, wind and nuclear. Right now, to purchase one of those, you are on a 5-year waitlist. There's your timeline!

      China is invested, from a regulatory, cultural, workforce, strategic, and technological standpoint, in an energy abundant future. We are not invested -- and in fact, actively sabotaging ourselves -- on all of those fronts.

      Once they acquire chips, we lose, basically permanently. Look at what Huawei is doing recently and what is on their roadmap to understand how fast this catching-up is taking place. I'm sure that David Sacks would say that our innovation motor is pulling their copycat caboose along, as our monopolist tech companies steam ahead towards the frontier. I am not so sure. They are already ahead of us in many technologies. Speaking of technologies, they're building natural gas turbines in house, starting in 2025.