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Comment by eastbound

2 hours ago

> You solve all of these with cryptography.

Or ballot boxes. Where citizen can keep their eyes on their ballot until it is counted.

Even back in 2002, TV channels in France (60m inhabitants) broadcast the winner at 20:00:30, using statistical models.

But recently, they removed the ability for citizen to stay during the counting, relying on designated persons, which breaks the chain of trust. Might as well cast my vote into a black bag or an electronic machine, no trust at all.

Trust was never the goal. As the means of coercion are higher and the capacity of communication is filtered, it becomes unnecessary to involve citizen in voting, isn't it?

> recently, they removed the ability for citizen to stay during the counting

Here in Australia, representatives of the various political parties observe the counting as scrutineers. I did it once. It’s absolutely fascinating seeing the system and rules. All (lower house) votes are physical slips of paper. Officials sort them into piles of 50 based on their first preference, in a big warehouse. Scrutineers watch them do it. We are allowed to contest their reading and sorting of a vote, but not physically touch anything.

I’m sorry to hear you can’t see your own democracy in action. I have more trust in our election process seeing it up close, in person.