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Comment by Sabinus

6 hours ago

Because politics is compromise.

Because the Palestinians are many decades late in accepting a two-state peace deal and their bargaining position isn't getting any better.

Because even moving 80% of West Bank settlement population is going to be difficult for Israel to achieve politically and we want the proposal to be something that can be actually achieved because we can see what the alternatives are. And this is with a hypothetical Democrat US president willing to bring ultimatums to an new Israeli President that is to the left of Netanyahu.

If you want to encourage endless conflict over what your vision of justice is then that's your right. But if there's no compromise there's going to be a lot of (mostly Palestinian) blood spilled yet and you should be aware of that.

I agree with you that politics is compromise. So given that:

Israel perpetrated an ethnic cleansing in 1948.

Israel illegally occupied Palestinian territory for decades, enforced apartheid, committed innumerable war crimes, murdered enormous amounts of civilians through the decades and caused total destruction of Gaza as well as many West Bank villages.

Never recognised Palestine even after Palestine recognised Israel (in 1998) and maneuvered to prevent its creation.

Given this and more, I would start by asking at least 120% of the territory back plus substantial reparations.

As for what Israel can achieve politically- I don't think you understand. You will never get anything via political negotiations because Israel has zero interest in giving up anything. The entire "peace process" has always been a farce, used to grant Israel more time to grab what it wants. The only way you're going to get anything is by exercising a substantial force, either economically (crippling sanctions) or via direct military intervention. If you keep treating Israel as a friend or an ally you'll never get anything out if it. Israel is an enemy.