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Comment by kevmo

11 days ago

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They do, but I stopped subscribing to the just world hypothesis a couple of decades ago. There is just too much broken and money has too much power to be reined in by justice.

  • nah respectfully, to hell with this doomerism. these people and groups have names. their deeds have paper trails. For every single one of them, there's millions of us. It's a matter of sorting out the polluted discourse, remembering we have 99% more in common than otherwise, organizing, electing grassroots politicians who truly represent the people and our interests, and then finally holding them accountable through prosecution.

    • > For every single one of them, there's millions of us.

      Yes, the ruling elite are typically outnumbered by the masses. It matters little: by historical standards, the ruling powers have virtually always leveraged their power to exploit those who don't have power. No reason to assume that streak will end.

    • it’s sinister because I believe most of us (by definition) think of ourselves as part of the people but as one has ambitions and becomes capable, the pull of “success” spares nobody.

      Flock is dystopian. It’s also non ironically pitched as solving crime. it’s also our friendly neighborhood YC company.

    • The work was done to put dumpty behind bars with evidence of his crimes in multiple jurisdictions. And enough people got manipulated by social media campaigns in the 4 years after the 2020 elections that most of them didn't even know the facts of the cases. There's a reason dumpty works with those in the photo. It's because they have created an effective and customizable propaganda campaign tool.

    • Heck yeah. My mom's generation refused to buy milk when it raised in price. This one sat back and let freedoms be destroyed. People are starting to realize that sitting on their butts, doomscrolling and accepting the status quo does nothing.

      Protests and Boycotts don't work when doomers sit there yapping about how they don't work instead of participating. Counter movement bot farms encourage them to do so. We've all got to unplug, wake up, stand up, and live on our feet rather than die on our knees.

  • You don't need a just world to imprison tech CEOs. These people are hated by the vast majority of the public and they are hoarding all the wealth. Society is at it's breaking point and we have a very convenient scape goat that everyone rightfully hates sitting right there.

    The universe may not be just, but it seems to set many things in motion if you want to participate.

What law do you believe that they have broken?

  • Combined, their companies have broken basically every law in the book that you could when it comes to privacy and copyright.

  • It would be quicker if you listed what laws you think they haven't broken. And remember, the bar for conspiracy is quite low.

  • Every AI company has flagrantly violated copyright, to begin with.

    But that's not the point!

    The point is that the laws are written by the oligarchs, for the oligarchs.

    Laws are made to protect wealth and power, so of course the wealthy and powerful haven't "broken" them.

    • A flagrant violation requires clearly established jurisprudence. What is considered fair use has always been nebulous, and to the extent that there are standards on it, it's mainly through established precedence, of which there is none on AI training.

      One can argue that the closest thing to an AI's training on a book is a person reading a book and remembering the details, which i'm sure you reject, but it's not prima facie unreasonable.

    • This is genuinely so funny to me.

      Five years ago this site was ready to burn you at the stake if you defended copyright laws, which clearly were only written to protect the rich and powerful, like Disney!

      Now those laws are obviously there to defend the little guy against the oligarchs, and we should ready our pitchforks to march on Silicon Valley for daring to violate our precious copyright laws!!

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  • RICO, sexual assault of minors, treason, labor laws, drug laws, and probably a million other things.