Comment by soulofmischief

> Wrong. Lots of Mac users skipped the Liquid Glass OSes.

I said the same operating system, not the same version of that operating system. Please make sure you're correctly reading my comment before criticizing it.

> This referring to third-party software (my interpretation) is also wrong. People have wildly different setups, at least among us nerds.

Your interpretation is wrong, I am talking about system software, this entire time I've been explicit that this is an Apple daemon and system software issue.

> Again, you don't know that. But your comment later on about two models having said issue is concerning.

Correct, I don't know anything at all 100%. What I do know is I have two laptops worth $10k between them which both have a ton of issues that others online have corroborated and which seem to be tied to 26 and 27 especially. And that these issues all trace back to several Apple daemons. I also am well aware of what 26 and 27 introduced, and can connect the dots. My theory is a solid theory until proven otherwise, but sure, if you want to be smart, literally anything is possible.

> That said, there's a high likelihood that you run the same software on each.

I have already stated in this thread that I have accounted for this extremely obvious possibility while debugging, and assuming I'm an idiot who has not considered this already is patronizing and unhelpful.

> If that's the case, I begin to suspect that the physical sensitivity that you mentioned in a different comment is the source

I hope you think I am capable of reading temperature gauges and differentiating between heat and any additional painful sensation on top before opening my mouth about this issue on a public forum. I also have a partner who I have asked to touch my machine plenty of times to gauge her reaction. I'm not saying these machines get mildly warm. I am saying they get hot.

> I can only make my M1 hot enough to noticeably warm up (or get hot) when slamming the CPU / GPU

Yes, and if you read my comments, you would know that my complaint is that this is exactly what multiple system processes are doing. You would also have seen that I already mentioned I use external peripherals but that I am also often on the go. It is hilarious to suggest that the compromise needs to come from my end when my extremely expensive workstation cannot even idle without sometimes getting warm or hot.