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Comment by BorisMelnik

17 hours ago

agree I think tor is such a cool technology but even the thought of what is getting routed through there on my machine or even a machine I rent is enough for me to stay away from it

I watched Adrian Crendshaw's DefCon talk about how people got busted using Tor and have also stayed away since then. I have used it in conjunction with TAILS a few times, but other than that, I don't mess with it any more.

DEF CON 22 - Adrian Crenshaw- Dropping Docs on Darknets: How People Got Caught

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ2OZKitRwc

Same thought for me with Freenet about 15 years ago.

I liked the idea of it, especially since it was a time where ISPs were really cracking down on BitTorrents. But after seeing a few index sites inside the network, I quickly realized how much of that network was CSAM.

Deleted that and never looked back.

You don't route anything by default, you have to explicitly enable it if you wish to help the network.

And relay operators (not exit nodes) don't face any issues. Don't let the unreasonable fear blind you.

  • I once worked at a very pro-hacker firm (USA) - our CTO, good as he was, once tried to migrate our Ubuntu based servers to BSD, this being a very high tier performance oriented HFT firm, purely on his love of the distro.

    A good dozen engineers in a team of 50 ran relays, one bold fool ran an exit node and was falsely fingered for CSAM type crimes during my tenure. The net effect was no one ran relays anymore. The poor exit operator remains an Irish to this day because he has dozens of headlines about his arrest and none about the dropped charges.

  • Yep, running a relay is fine ! I did it for several years (even got the free shirt!). And it is still useful because more relay improve the network for hidden services (which are insanely cool to self-host some stuff, free NAT traversal !).