Comment by jsbisviewtiful
7 hours ago
Just about every week there’s news of some kind of ecosystem damage by another negligent company that streams into my RSS feed.
Related, but the American gov recently invaded a country to take its oil while simultaneously shutting down funding for green energy projects. Exhausting.
The problem is sometimes the lessoned learned is don’t be responsible.
So no longer own oil tankers and instead each ship is owned by its own LLC so just that piece goes down and the liability gets capped to its insurance contract.
Externalization at its finest. Pocket the profits and let the world deal with the trash. I absolutely hate these people.
“A made up scenario, I am outraged!”
Do you know that BP wasn’t the company that spilled? LLCs don’t let you shirk responsibility like that.
It's not really your argument, but to be clear nobody is actually claiming the US followed Israel into war with Iran because of oil.
It was surely a reference to Venezuela.
Kind of sad comedy that when someone says "The US invaded a country for its oil" it is entirely unclear what the country is.
The country is Venezuela
I don't condone corporate negligence or violations of environmental protection laws, but some kind of ecosystem damage is an inevitable consequence of humans existing with an advanced industrial civilization. We're going to have an impact.
> but some kind of ecosystem damage is an inevitable consequence of humans existing with an advanced industrial civilization
Well in this case the consequence is "we are destroying the conditions of our own survival". Open question is whether an advanced industrial civilisation can survive at all.
That is literally every organism
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That sure sounds like the definition of "condone."
How so?
Yes but we could have a significantly less one though. We're extremely wasteful and plan ahead poorly for minimizing the environmental impact, which becomes a partisan political issue instead of just doing our best to live in a healthy environment.
If you compare our impact per capita and per dollar of GDP it’s much less today than 50 years ago. There’s just more dollars and more capita.
We are getting better at this. Time will tell if we are getting better at it fast enough. Ask someone in 2126.
And no I don’t think we will be dead, but if we do too much damage the world may be severely degraded and they might be quite angry at previous generations for basically leaving them with the bill.
What’s exhausting is shifting the goal posts. BP should be held up as a great example where the responsibility transferred onto the shareholders.
“Oh, but there are other bad actors doing things” is not a counterpoint. That’s the same as claiming a government can’t work by pointing to a different failed policy every time someone points how how a policy failure was corrected.