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Comment by other8026

9 hours ago

We were pulled into this conversation by people who were attacking GrapheneOS. We didn't want to participate in this conversation. GrapheneOS doesn't recommend or support microG. The topic of this entire post has nothing to do with us.

Look at ForHackernews' comments and you'll understand why we counter them.

What's toxic about responding to people attacking GrapheneOS?

For this specific comment in question, this is easily falsifiable: the top-level-comment was about signature spoofing, there was no mention of Graphene at all.

> What's toxic about responding to people attacking GrapheneOS?

You're making my point for me. Which, to be clear, I find sad because I want GrapheneOS to succeed, but that's really hindered by this behaviour.

  • Our responses throughout this thread are due to inaccurate attacks on the GrapheneOS project including the ones you've made. microG developers and the corporations funding it have a long history of misleading people about GrapheneOS and engaging in harassment towards our team. Their supporters have regularly engaged in harassment including attempts at physically harming our team members with swatting attacks. The CEO of one of the main companies funding and supporting microG has directly participated in harassment and linked to content on harassment sites. The lead developer of the project has participated in spreading fabrications about us and personal attacks on us. That's what is toxic, and your comments lying about us are toxic too.

No one "attacked" you about anything. I observed that you don't recommend MicroG (the topic of this thread) and noted that you discourage people from rooting their devices and suggest installing proprietary GApps instead of libre software like MicroG.

Why do you consider it an attack to accurately summarize your own opinions?

  • You're not accurately summarizing what we've said. You're attacking the GrapheneOS project with misrepresentations, misleading claims and outright falsehoods throughout this thread as you've done many times before. You've once again done so in your latest comment we're responding to right now. Most of the claims you've made throughout this thread have been debunked. Responding to those with accurate information is not aggression or toxicity. We're addressing inaccurate claims about GrapheneOS on this platform and will also post a long form response elsewhere.