Comment by Borealid

> Knowing what is in the model is a long way from understanding it.

The claim I was arguing against reads as follows:

> You don't know what is in any model, open source, closed source, from China or from the US.

I contend that you do, in fact, know what's in a fully open model. I don't really get why the goalposts need to move beyond that to something I wasn't saying about bounding the potential outputs given unbounded inputs and nondeterministic choice of inference parameters.

I'm literally saying that if you see what goes into the sausage it's foolishness to argue you can't know what's in the sausage.