Comment by Jeep_
10 hours ago
Pure marketing, it's getting increasingly hard to separate actual technical feats of agents from marketing pretentious declarations. Such a terrible environment to navigate right now.
10 hours ago
Pure marketing, it's getting increasingly hard to separate actual technical feats of agents from marketing pretentious declarations. Such a terrible environment to navigate right now.
I don’t think it’s marketing but the fact that all the labs don’t immediately agree to stop further release until security is more established shows the profit motive is inappropriate for this industry and needs to be removed from them. You don’t get to threaten humanity while cashing in stock to buy a San Francisco mansion.
What’s worse is that this is part of a larger strategy of scaring the public to get regulatory capture
It’s just gross and manipulative. You have no moat, get over it
pAtCh ThE pLaNeT today, tomorrow it's creepy rent-seeking behavior
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do you prefer they not engage in helping finding vulns at all? Do you not think there are parts of the company interested in security and doing it for the sake of that?
I feel like taking every action these companies take as part of some larger strategy is kind of conspiracy-minded.
This is a false binary. There are a range of other options. They could voluntarily log every action with a clear warning that users are financially and criminally liable for use of AI. The company could convert to a partnership like law firms and investment banks used to be so that the executives are personally liable for harm their products cause. Hard to imagine they would be as flippant with risk if they would lose everything in the event of a Cyber attack. We could set up a parallel internet for AI that is physically separate from human internet and limit ai to text messages with all tool execution on the sandboxed internet.
I could give 15 more examples of things that could be done other than “make the world use our tools to patch software”.
Disclaimer: I work as a sec engineer and part of my job includes finding vulnerabilities.
I think the effort is misplaced. We should be exploring ways to make our systems more resilient and I would expect those companies* to focus on that front. Vulnerability research is important, and we should aim to remove as many bugs as we can from our codebases but the pace of software development is increasing and so is the introduction of new bugs.
* I would also expect an increase on relevant research regarding novel paradigms of securing systems.
Why didn't OAI go back to non-profit again?
Where's the conspiracy. There is no moat. The technology is easily reproducible. Deepseek unwound an entire business model yesterday.
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It's not hard tho, the default mode of thinking should be to never trust what a US corporation says.
Why limit only to the US?
US corporations benefit from US corruption and US imperialism. Hard to not think of a more destructive force currently in the world.
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Not marketing. It is a crime related to fraud or securities fraud.
You're claiming this is securities fraud?
Not only that, but everything else is also securities fraud.
What is your argument to say that lying to investors and shareholder is not a crime? It seems a weird position to defend.
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This isn't a security incident as much as it is a marketing opportunity for all these companies.