Comment by erkt
3 hours ago
Are they still in competition? Or are they a government sanctioned monopoly? I’m not sure that will be competitive. There are no market forces to do so but pride.
3 hours ago
Are they still in competition? Or are they a government sanctioned monopoly? I’m not sure that will be competitive. There are no market forces to do so but pride.
You are severely misusing the term monopoly.
There is demand for AI that is not US or China controlled. Mistral is serving that demand.
That demand is enshrined in law and being forced through coercion. It is the definition of a government dictated monopoly.
Nobody is preventing other Europeans from setting up AI companies
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"The definition of a government dictated monopoly".
This is a joke right?
A lot of national defense stuff is a de facto "government sanctioned monopoly" and this is certainly the same flavor. Market forces are different if the industry is perceived to be vital to continued sovereignty.
Being the only(?) competitive European model probably makes them a de-facto monopoly for doing sensitive European stuff.
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Which government? Sanctioned how? What stops other European companies from competing with Mistral? Is the situation better in the US?
That's rich coming from a country who's top AI contender just announced 80B in yearly losses. Looks a lot like a subsidised duopoly to me.
72B of the 80B was paper losses due to stock exercises and not related to cash flow.
Who's subsidizing it?
Also what about SpaceX, Meta and Google? They are clearly still in the game. They are all ahead of Mistral.
french are pretty proud man. pro-euro europeans too!
I mean, the model architecture is basically that of GLM 5.3 with slightly more parameters and slightly more active parameters, so it should probably be able to beat GLM 5.3 enough post-training.
Actually, with Trump in the Office, "AI/Data Sovereignty" is quite a strong market forces. From Europe point-of-view, any US company is a potential risk (hello Starlink)
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There is one word too many in that last line. The US is no longer a 'potential' risk.
It's well known that every Mistral employee is a fonctionnaire. No.