This is a phenomenon I've noticed - even if AI isn't being used to edit their posts, I think profilic exposure to AI chatbots can rub off on a person and affect their conversation style.
>I think profilic exposure to AI chatbots can rub off on a person and affect their conversation style.
Ya think. This is how language transfer has happened in humanity for like ever. Or were kids saying things like 6/7 forever and I just missed it.
Anything you hear and see commonly will become part of your lexicon, things you don't see commonly are apt to drop out of your usage.
This is why things like panagram will just eventually be useless. We'll talk like the bots and the bots will talk like us. That and a number of HN'ers will bitch about every post being AI regardless of its origination.
It's started rubbing off on me too and I find it irritating when I'm chatting with someone and an AI-ism starts rolling off my tongue.
I'm beginning to think I should: a) ask my agents to unslop[1] themselves when communicating back to me, and b) decide upon some writing standard and ask my agents to adhere to that.
That's almost a compliment because my comments are giant stream of consciousness rants that absolutely don't follow best writing practices and are all just massive run on sentences :)
I do use - hyphens a lot, but not em-dashes because 1. I never even realized there was a difference until LLMs came out and 2. I'm too lazy to figure out how to write a real em-dash
I'm guessing you're just saying this because the comments are insanely long from the ranting? I'd be curious what else gives off LLM vibes because I'm quite positive if you throw any of these comments into any Pangram ish thing you'll find that it's absolutely not LLM generated in the slightest.
I have an extremely distinctive writing style that far predates LLMs - here's a representative sample of my writing from 9 years ago https://medium.com/@intenex/cryptocurrency-101-7197684775fd that pretty clearly shows my distinct style of not-very-LLMish-but-clearly-very-long-and-ranty writing :)
Long comments, well-informed comments, comments they don't agree with, comments praising something from a specific company or country, the list goes on. It's basically impossible to actively participate in online discussions these days without being accused of being a bot at least occasionally.
I miss the days when I was allegedly just a shill. Being a shill pays way better than being a bot, so I had something to aspire to.
lol says the account one day old to my account that’s over 15 years old with clear established comment history with the exact same type of writing going back way before the advent of llms
They pretty obviously aren't. Why do you even feel the need to say this? What's the point? I'm not speaking on the behalf of the original commenter obviously, but as a passer-by, I find this comment to be very rude and tone deaf considering how much time likely went into writing such a thoughtful and comprehensive comment.
Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to write this, it restores some faith in the humanity of internet commenters to see a fair bit of defense here :). Please keep being awesome!
Like LLMs I've been trained by society to learn that a more effective way to disagree with someone in a constructive format is to compliment them first :P
Because they mostly likely are. Astroturfing 101: Go to the comment section of the {NEW_PRODUCT} and write a story about how awesome and "gamechanging" the product is to you personally.
Ai-bros run shill compai..., sry "reputation management" all over the internet.
Which is understandable, considering everything they have runs and dies solely based on hype.
You can try it out yourself, if you have a prominent social media account, like on xitter etc, just write a skeptical comment about AI and watch tons of accounts appear out of thin air to tell you how wrong you are.
Ironically, you can currently see it with the other replies to your post. Would have been funny, if it wasn't so sad.
This is a phenomenon I've noticed - even if AI isn't being used to edit their posts, I think profilic exposure to AI chatbots can rub off on a person and affect their conversation style.
>I think profilic exposure to AI chatbots can rub off on a person and affect their conversation style.
Ya think. This is how language transfer has happened in humanity for like ever. Or were kids saying things like 6/7 forever and I just missed it.
Anything you hear and see commonly will become part of your lexicon, things you don't see commonly are apt to drop out of your usage.
This is why things like panagram will just eventually be useless. We'll talk like the bots and the bots will talk like us. That and a number of HN'ers will bitch about every post being AI regardless of its origination.
It's started rubbing off on me too and I find it irritating when I'm chatting with someone and an AI-ism starts rolling off my tongue.
I'm beginning to think I should: a) ask my agents to unslop[1] themselves when communicating back to me, and b) decide upon some writing standard and ask my agents to adhere to that.
[1] https://github.com/cursor/plugins/blob/main/pstack/skills/un...
I have to push back on that ...
Its not. Source: I've done quite a bit of work on humanizing AI text and testing various detectors (Pangram being the best)
AI detectors are no better than astrology.
I think they look distinctly non AI generated. Particularly the use of dash - instead of emdash usually means a keyboard is being used.
Frontier models have fixed the em dash issue.
That's almost a compliment because my comments are giant stream of consciousness rants that absolutely don't follow best writing practices and are all just massive run on sentences :)
I do use - hyphens a lot, but not em-dashes because 1. I never even realized there was a difference until LLMs came out and 2. I'm too lazy to figure out how to write a real em-dash
I'm guessing you're just saying this because the comments are insanely long from the ranting? I'd be curious what else gives off LLM vibes because I'm quite positive if you throw any of these comments into any Pangram ish thing you'll find that it's absolutely not LLM generated in the slightest.
I have an extremely distinctive writing style that far predates LLMs - here's a representative sample of my writing from 9 years ago https://medium.com/@intenex/cryptocurrency-101-7197684775fd that pretty clearly shows my distinct style of not-very-LLMish-but-clearly-very-long-and-ranty writing :)
3. AGENTS.md tells you not to
tons of people these days reflexively respond to long comments saying they're AI
one could wonder, how many of these reflexive AI replyers are themselves AI
Long comments, well-informed comments, comments they don't agree with, comments praising something from a specific company or country, the list goes on. It's basically impossible to actively participate in online discussions these days without being accused of being a bot at least occasionally.
I miss the days when I was allegedly just a shill. Being a shill pays way better than being a bot, so I had something to aspire to.
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Correct.... very suspect.
Swear you can't trust many posts anymore. Should we all start congregating in person online to debate lol? I'm very serious.
lol says the account one day old to my account that’s over 15 years old with clear established comment history with the exact same type of writing going back way before the advent of llms
This one doesn't look AI generated at all
As someone who reviews a lot of AI shit and can generally tell ai generated down to the model version … nah, it doesn’t.
Yeah, you can tell by the pixels!
Buddy, maybe make fun of grandparent instead of me here?
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There’s no way to not look AI generated these days. Give it a break.
They pretty obviously aren't. Why do you even feel the need to say this? What's the point? I'm not speaking on the behalf of the original commenter obviously, but as a passer-by, I find this comment to be very rude and tone deaf considering how much time likely went into writing such a thoughtful and comprehensive comment.
Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to write this, it restores some faith in the humanity of internet commenters to see a fair bit of defense here :). Please keep being awesome!
That is an excellent point
Is the starting statement on about half of the comments on this page. The world is getting so weird.
Like LLMs I've been trained by society to learn that a more effective way to disagree with someone in a constructive format is to compliment them first :P
Because they mostly likely are. Astroturfing 101: Go to the comment section of the {NEW_PRODUCT} and write a story about how awesome and "gamechanging" the product is to you personally. Ai-bros run shill compai..., sry "reputation management" all over the internet. Which is understandable, considering everything they have runs and dies solely based on hype. You can try it out yourself, if you have a prominent social media account, like on xitter etc, just write a skeptical comment about AI and watch tons of accounts appear out of thin air to tell you how wrong you are. Ironically, you can currently see it with the other replies to your post. Would have been funny, if it wasn't so sad.
Thanks Claude. This comment is 100% AI slop.