Today "racism" is used as a synonym for "bigotry". Would you agree it was bigotry? Or do you only have a problem with people using words wrong, and not bigotry itself?
My mistake. English is not my first language. In my native language, the word racism is used for discrimination or prejudice against anything foreign (nation, race, language, ...).
But either way, I find the reduction of the argument to the semantics of the word racism to be deflection. Wouldn't you agree the original comment was made in poor taste? Why did it need to include a reference to Indian and imply that all things Indian made are cheap or low quality?
We applied this kind of mindset to the Japanese in the 60s and 70s, and look where that got us. I witness it happening again in the 00s and 10s applied to Korean electronics (LG and Samsung mostly) while we were content with minor improvements over the status quo and innovating far too slowly.
Yes, this incident has an almost farcical amount of stupid attached to it, but the fact that it happened to an Indian company is in my eyes only coincidental. There are plenty of Silicon Valley startups and tech companies that are equally cavalier about aspects of security and apply the mentality of "we'll fix it in post" to anything but shipping features.
IME the number of manual processes which are bug-prone and faulty in Indian teams is higher than normal, and so is the reluctance to any form of automated testing, and general unawareness about any security or licensing concerns.
This is also racists. How many Indian engineers are there vs rest of the world? What kind of work is getting outsourced?
Let's take your words only.
Manual processes which are bug-prone and faulty are getting outsourced. They handle it with their best knowledge. Some processes/data knowledge is never transferred and some are kept hidden and assumed from outsourced teams but they have different culture and exposure so their understanding of things might be different. Its expectation mismatch not team issues.
American software giants are run by Indians only. So, if they are bug-prone & faulty then how could they reach there. It just that when person study with you or live with you then they have same set of culture & exposure like you have. So, they can manage things effectively.
No need to resort to racism. Stupidity is present in all nations.
India is a place not a race though. They have an entire caste system built around that fact.
Today "racism" is used as a synonym for "bigotry". Would you agree it was bigotry? Or do you only have a problem with people using words wrong, and not bigotry itself?
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You have little and big endians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
I had a bunch of openwrt routers based on the ADM5120 SoC, some of them were of different endianness, totally wth:
https://linux-mips.org/wiki/Adm5120
My mistake. English is not my first language. In my native language, the word racism is used for discrimination or prejudice against anything foreign (nation, race, language, ...).
But either way, I find the reduction of the argument to the semantics of the word racism to be deflection. Wouldn't you agree the original comment was made in poor taste? Why did it need to include a reference to Indian and imply that all things Indian made are cheap or low quality?
We applied this kind of mindset to the Japanese in the 60s and 70s, and look where that got us. I witness it happening again in the 00s and 10s applied to Korean electronics (LG and Samsung mostly) while we were content with minor improvements over the status quo and innovating far too slowly.
Yes, this incident has an almost farcical amount of stupid attached to it, but the fact that it happened to an Indian company is in my eyes only coincidental. There are plenty of Silicon Valley startups and tech companies that are equally cavalier about aspects of security and apply the mentality of "we'll fix it in post" to anything but shipping features.
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I am against eMudhra to the core and their stupidity (or playing the dangerous game of compromising the security) but this is pure racism.
IME the number of manual processes which are bug-prone and faulty in Indian teams is higher than normal, and so is the reluctance to any form of automated testing, and general unawareness about any security or licensing concerns.
This is also racists. How many Indian engineers are there vs rest of the world? What kind of work is getting outsourced?
Let's take your words only.
Manual processes which are bug-prone and faulty are getting outsourced. They handle it with their best knowledge. Some processes/data knowledge is never transferred and some are kept hidden and assumed from outsourced teams but they have different culture and exposure so their understanding of things might be different. Its expectation mismatch not team issues.
American software giants are run by Indians only. So, if they are bug-prone & faulty then how could they reach there. It just that when person study with you or live with you then they have same set of culture & exposure like you have. So, they can manage things effectively.
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