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Comment by tialaramex

16 days ago

The "guy emptying the trash" and so on were hyperbole. Perhaps I should have made that clearer. Americans elect far too many of these roles and that's a problem but it is true that, so far at least, they do not elect the people who empty their trash.

The ultimate boss at the CPS is just a lawyer, his boss is the Attorney General for England and Wales and the Attorney General (although also usually a lawyer) is a politician, typically an elected politician. But that's quite a lot more distance between your criminal case and somebody trying to get re-elected.

> The ultimate boss at the CPS is just a lawyer, his boss is the Attorney General for England and Wales and the Attorney General (although also usually a lawyer) is a politician, typically an elected politician

Sounds exactly like how things work with Attorney Generals for the states and the feds, as well as with many county attorneys in the US, especially the larger ones.

The large, large majority of cases in the US are prosecuted by career lawyers, not elected officials.

> Americans elect far too many of these roles

This varies a lot by state, btw.

  • > Sounds exactly like how things work with Attorney Generals for the states and the feds, as well as with many county attorneys in the US

    Sure, in the same way that Australia is exactly like Greenland.

    Even in relatively populous New York the org chart distance between your criminal prosecutor and an elected politician is significantly smaller than in England. Somewhere smaller there's an excellent chance that an elected politician has direct influence over the choice to prosecute you and that's unavoidably corrupting.

    Is it as bad as the mistake of leaving the Pardon Power with an elected politician? No. That was unconscionable back when the the "First Black President" was a white guy named Bill and he used it to pardon crooked friends and family, and of course it's still unconscionable today when people just straight up pay Donald to get out of jail. But elected prosecutors is still pretty bad.

    > This varies a lot by state, btw.

    Almost everything does. On a good day that's an opportunity to learn what works and all improve. But those good days are fewer and further between than ever.