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Comment by aleph_minus_one

17 hours ago

> For this work, you're either inserting coins into Codex, effectively donating money

Rather: as a necessary evil you give money to OpenAI/Anthropic because you really want to see (ideally fast) progress on this mathematical/algorithmic problem.

That's like saying "you love cooking, so for fast progress you insert coins into doordash to make fast progress on a meal". If you do that, you don't love cooking.

It's fundamentally incongruous with someone that "loves the game". And I hope that you have a good excuse for ruining it, hopefully a seven or eight figure excuse.

  • > That's like saying "you love cooking, so for fast progress you insert coins into doordash to make fast progress on a meal". If you do that, you don't love cooking.

    Rather, it's like saying "I love eating good food."

    One approach is to learn to cook excellently, buy high-quality ingredients etc. Then invest time to cook a delicious meal. This is like learning math, becoming exceptional in one area, and then work on the problem.

    Another approach is to go to a well-rated restaurant, order some food there, and pay a decent amount of money for the food. This is like buying AI tokens, and setting up some agents to work on math problems.

    Both approaches are suitable. And I guess/hope many people who really would love to contribute to progress in mathematics would really prefer to go the first way. But because

    - they are not highly gifted

    - have a time-consuming daily job and/or family

    - simply cannot afford the high opportunity cost to get to a suitable level in math

    - ...

    the only way such people can contribute to progress in math is the second approach. That's why these people behave like they do.

    I am quite confident that most of such contributors don't like that their money lands in the hands of OpenAI/Anthropic.

    So: Which approach would you recommend these people who are really eager to contribute to progress on some mathematical problems?

    • So, what's the game you claim to love? Wading through piles of poorly written proof and trying to de-slop it?

      It's like saying "look, they may not be good at painting, so what can we do other than letting them take a can of spray paint to the contents of the Louvre?"

      If you can't contribute, enjoy it passively, instead of doing damage.

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