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Comment by JokerDan

18 hours ago

DNS resolvers getting sued should stop resolving domains/properties of the companies suing them too when they are forced to take these kinds of actions/steps off the back of a legal decision like this.

Keep resolving, but instead of resolving multiple A records, resolve just one. Fuck that one server in particular.

Delay updates by 1 week.

Answer randomly with the up-to-date or the out-of-date records.

While I agree in spirit, this also makes the resolver away from being able to claim they're just a neutral service which just delivers existing records without being opinionated

  • I mean if they're getting sued for failing to block proxy/vpn services they're being told to be opinionated and they can't be a neutral service. "You asked us to be opinionated about traffic, so we're doing that. Do you want us to go back to being neutral?"

Obviously

The problem is that these types of companies are started by naive idealistic techs who only know how to play by the rules and can't figure out why people would misuse their products

They were very well described by the "rubber hose crypto" XKCD

(Not that I don't think a DNS company stays at the same level of complexity - both legal and technological - as a VPN company, but still)

  • Or, get this, anything that is useful can be misused, so maybe we should go after the people misusing things rather than locking all of society in a cage to pre-emptively prevent misuse.

    "The problem is that these types of companies [kitchen knife manufacturers] are started by naive idealistic [craftsmen] who only know how to play by the rules and can't figure out why people would misuse their products [by stabbing people]."

  • What "types" of companies do you mean exactly?

    • Tomato sauce companies?

      Or companies that sit between tricky legal and technical questions without having f-you money but especially lacking on f-you legal advice

      (One thing about these founders is that they also have a hard time understanding context and follow-up questions)

Redirect porn websites domains to them.

  • That's risking yourself getting flashbanged on a plane for suspicion of human trafficking and sacrilegious creation of fictions and engaging in Antaractican nuclear programs.

This would hurt their users by making their DNS services less useful than competitors.

Hopefully the leadership of public resolvers isn't as a childish as you are.

That kind of action would penalize their users far more than it would hurt the evil corporation that slighted them. Not to mention they'd lose users. People who choose quad9 likely aren't too keen with DNS tempering.

But yeah, take that sony-or-whatever!

  • Isn't the intent of rejecting, or boycotting, a company supposed to cause a disruption in the first place? If the people boycotted a company into bankruptcy, because said company refused to change their behavior, would the people be in the wrong because it might hurt the users? No.