Comment by this_user
17 hours ago
Whenever people talk about why you should host in the EU, this is just the most recent example for why should shouldn't.
17 hours ago
Whenever people talk about why you should host in the EU, this is just the most recent example for why should shouldn't.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/judge-rules-ever...
US ISP ignore blocking orders and that was never challenged.
Host in Switzerland, that's where Quad9 operates from.
Switzerland is not in the EU, thankfully. And it seems to be one of the few places left in Europe where privacy is taken somewhat seriously.
Indeed. If it were just a question of Swiss law, we'd be in excellent shape. The problem is that France and Switzerland are both signatories to the Lugano Convention, while the US is not. As long as the Quad9 Foundation has to have a legal domicile somewhere, there will always be some lever that can be used against it. Switzerland was the best place, but does not offer perfect protection.
Switzerland has its own DNS blocklist that all ISPs obey. [1]
Quad9 doesn't obey it but I never understood how they can get away with that legally. I'd be interested in an explanation if someone knows more!
1. https://www.gespa.ch/en/fighting-illegal-gambling/access-blo...
Quad9 is not a telecommunications service provider as defined by Swiss law, which is where that application becomes enforced. Details of this (and many other things) can be found on the "Compliance and Applicable Law" section of the website. https://quad9.net/privacy/compliance-and-applicable-law/
Sounds like they get away with it legally because the law applies to ISPs and they’re not an ISP.
From your link:
> Internet service providers in Switzerland are obliged to take measures to prevent access to these domains (DNS blocking).
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I opened the blocklist expecting some juicy Linux ISO sites and... it's all betting sites. I'm not even mad.
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Also, hosting location is kind of a deception for real ways to protect data, like E2EE, which work no matter the country.