Comment by genxy

True, but I am talking about the whole vibe of security as an industry and how the corporatization of defcon shapes it. The primary issue with security, it is difficult to show efficacy. It is akin to proving a negative. If you are doing your job, no one notices until they have laid you off. You need to be loud, flashy, dangerous, brash to stick around. So now the ecosystem breeds for a signal isn't related to how qualified one was at security.