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Comment by ninjagoo

16 days ago

> There is a cost benefit analysis that even serial offenders go through to pick a victim

Are you making the case that a society unable to protect its denizens from violent offenders in broader society will be able to protect its denizens on public transport from those same violent offenders through the application of a $2.50 fare?

Hmm.

I’m saying that knowing that you’re being (potentially) being watched for fare evasion has a deterrent effect on wanting to commit a crime.

How many times have you heard of road rage incidents which deescalate as soon as one party realises that they are being recorded by a dashcam? People’s behavior under surveillance is different from their private behavior.

  • This claim seems suspect.

    Surveillance doesn’t require fee collection.

    Is violent crime in Target stores higher than it is in Costco locations because the latter charges an admission fee?

    • I think the issue is loitering. Target and Costco can remove people from premises who loiter, but a public transportation system might not be able to do that *assuming no loitering statutes for the stations are in place.

      I would personally be surprised if violent attacks are differentiated in rate between the two.

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  • > I’m saying that knowing that you’re being (potentially) being watched for fare evasion has a deterrent effect on wanting to commit a crime.

    Are you suggesting that society can reduce crime by charging a fee to be out in public and surveilling public spaces for fare evasion?

    Brilliant!