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Comment by dzhiurgis

5 hours ago

What are alternatives? I keep thinking I want something I can run vibed apps on, especially something grok bot right on device.

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spellboots  2 hours ago

I run vibed apps on my iphone just fine - you have to register for a developer account and pay the annual fee, but I have an agent app running that can improve itself and push new versions over wifi just fine.

I even have realtime watch complications which no shipping app can have because of apple restrictions - developer mode lets you push complication updates realtime if you want.

I'll probably consider something more open next time I buy but just pointing out that right now with a developer account you're not actually _that_ restricted on iOS, the experience is better than you might think if you're making an app you never intend to ship.

  • theK  2 hours ago

    So whats the going rate nowadays for running your own apps in your own device? 100$ a year?

    • spellboots  2 hours ago

      I already have an account so I use that regardless, but AFAICT you can in fact build for your own device without paying at all. I haven't tested this though.

      I am not arguing Apple's restrictions are a good thing, if I were in charge I would in fact make allowing installing your own software on your own device a legal requirement of selling hardware, yet here we are.

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