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Comment by bluefirebrand

11 hours ago

I'm not trying to uphold any tribe I just want to feel secure in my job. :/

AI has taken that security away from me

The whole "needing a job" thing is already part of a tribe though. It's a tribe that says (and enforces) that everyone needs to work for money or else.

  • I don’t think bluefirebrand is in the tribe of “everyone must have a job or die” so much as they’re in the tribe of “everyone says I must have a job or die”. Like yeah if I was forced at gunpoint to possess something or be ostracized from society then I too would be a little perturbed if someone made an automatic “take away the thing” device.

    • Yeah, correct, but I think it's also necessary to apportion blame correctly. Tribalism is a big part of the problem here. When people propose solutions to this problem they're often met with purely tribalist counter-screaming.

  • ‘Having to work for money’ beats ‘having to hunt and farm for food’ and it’s technically a small step away.

    ‘Not having to work and being warm and fed’ is called being a pet. Some cats and dogs enjoy this life greatly. I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently.

To be fair, many of us working outside of software engineering sadly never had that job security, even before AI.

I'm sorry for your loss, but welcome also to the real world. You had it better than most for a long while.

What are you doing to adapt to the new reality?

  • What makes you think everybody will be able to adapt to 'the new reality'? That's pretty cruel.

    I know plenty of people in their late 40's 50's and 60's that were doing fine and who now have to compete with junior and Claude.

    And sometimes just Claude.

    Obviously they had no inherent right to income but still, people have obligations that need to be met and if they stop spending the economy is not going to be happy. Especially cruel because we have been telling everybody for decades that a career in software is stable and that there will always be a need for more people.

    I suspect that when all this is over 1929 will look pretty good.

    • > What makes you think everybody will be able to adapt to 'the new reality'? That's pretty cruel.

      I don’t, necessarily; but I do know that if you’re not even trying, then you’re putting yourself at greater risk. This isn’t one of those developments that people can just stubbornly dig their heels in about.

      Life throws obstacles at everyone. Learning how to dodge and weave is essential to survival.

      > I suspect that when all this is over 1929 will look pretty good.

      Oh come on. Let’s not be so dramatic, shall we?

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  • Dunno yet. Thinking about going back to school and retrain for something else, because software is pretty much over for me

    That or swallow a bullet, we'll see. Haven't decided. We'll see how long my current unemployment lasts, and how long my savings last after that

    • HN stranger, I want to observe that you shared a suicidal idea. I'm sorry to read about your unemployment situation and know things must not be easy. As one HNer to another, I implore you to not to pursue that path and seek help in doing so. That we are members of this community confers to us opportunities to build knowledge that serve us well as life long learners. In that vein, going back to school is not a bad idea.

      Having been in this game for a long time, I get the negative aspects of the industry. They grind on me, as I believe they have for you. Choosing a different path is not an all or nothing proposition. Your knowledge, and you as a person, have value. I hope you find a way towards better mental health and wish you well on that journey.

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