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Comment by stickfigure

6 hours ago

The skill to win elections and the skill to govern are not the same. And humans have biases against change. Term limits guarantee the downside is limited and they are healthy for a real democracy.

Also... too long in power makes it easier to dismantle the democratic process.

The entire American system of checks and balances is not designed to get optimal leadership, it is designed to limit damage from bad leadership.

> The entire American system of checks and balances is not designed to get optimal leadership, it is designed to limit damage from bad leadership.

Well how's that working out? There's a reason the rest of the developed democratic world hasn't adopted a strong executive.

  • American system maintained being a super power for 80 years, great stability and giant prosperity.

    Worked out very well for the American system till recently.

    • I think that's just because both parties managed to keep demagogues from being nominated until 2016.

> And humans have biases against change

Funnily enough, a lot of people who voted for Flávio only did it because they wanted a change from Lula.

> The skill to win elections and the skill to govern are not the same.

Then elect someone else next time. This, however, is a criticism of democracy more than it is a justification for term limits.

> The entire American system of checks and balances is not designed to get optimal leadership, it is designed to limit damage from bad leadership.

How's that working out for you? You got Trump and Biden as a direct result of term limits. The way I see it, your system has selected for the maximally damaging bad leadership possible.

  • > You got Trump and Biden as a direct result of term limits.

    The US only enacted term limits in 1951. Before that time, only two presidents had attempted to seek third terms (another two attempted but failed to secure even a nomination by a political party), and only one was successful.

    And, quite frankly, the only president since the 22nd amendment who I could see wanting to run for a third term is Trump, who does seem to be campaigning for one anyways despite being constitutionally barred from it.