Comment by NohatCoder
2 hours ago
It is obvious, yet so many people don't understand it.
There is no secret ingredient, writing a website, or anything really, without a framework is not wildly more difficult than using a framework.
Save for a few cases where all you really want to do is covered by the default configuration, you generally don't end up writing a lot less code with a framework. Worst case, you end up spending most of your time working around the framework.
> you generally don't end up writing a lot less code with a framework
What? This is absolutely untrue for anything that isn't a trivial v1 prototype. Complex applications have a lot of boilerplate, which is unavoidable with the baggage of HTML and CSS.
There's a reason people are obsessed with web frameworks. Writing vanilla HTML/CSS/JS for large or complex apps is an enormous pain.