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Comment by crote

10 hours ago

Solar panels still work just fine when it is cloudy, just with a lower output. And usually when it is cloudy it also tends to be a bit windy, so solar and wind nicely complement each other.

Heavy clouds and zero wind, for weeks? That's a once-a-century freak event. Just build gas peaker plants if you are worried about it. You could even add carbon capture, but constructing it might emit more than it will ever capture...

> Solar panels still work just fine when it is cloudy, just with a lower output.

I assume you never tried measuring the output of a solar panel when it's cloudy. It's 10-15% of a sunny day. Closer to not working than working.

  • Depends on the cloud. Where I live I routinely get 50% generation on a "cloudy" day.

    On a rainy day that drops closer to 20%.

    As an aside - cloudy days avoid a problem I have with shade. In winter, at 3:30pm, the sun goes behind a tree and my production plummets to near zero. If there's cloud cover the sunlight is far more dispersed and there's no "shade".

    • > On a rainy day that drops closer to 20%

      And you’re still able to power your entire home? What if the rain lasts for a few days, which is pretty common in many places.

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  • Worst I've had over a day in the last few months on my home solar is about 25% of my maximum daily generation. It was one day in a very rainy week here in Brisbane Australia.

    I did have one rainy day back in the middle of Winter that was 16% but that will end up being literally the worst day of the year.

That's every single winter where I live in the US. We don't have a word for it like the Germans do, though, we just call it January.

  • The good news is: you're on a national (or semi-national) grid, and conditions like that are more unusual than they are common across the USA.

    • You want us to transport energy 1500 miles? Cold, dark winters cover enormous swathes of the US - inconveniently, often at similar times. So what - we're turning Florida into a solar park so the rest of the nation can use that while they're dark?

      Our energy grid can't currently handle the ability to charge electric haulers locally at any scale let alone to move an entire city's worth of energy, so the solution is not to 85x the national electric grid all at once.

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Carbon capture makes little sense until fossil fuels have been replaced. I guess there are some Bio char technologies that might change the equation a bit, but watt for watt, you need to replace your carbon emissions first (generally speaking)