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Comment by NDlurker

1 day ago

It is both sides. Republicans accelerate it, but Democrats don't shut it down when they have the chance. Obama and Biden had 12 years to fix it.

Obama certainly was for this; he didn't shy away from extrajudicial assassination of an American citizen in a foreign land, executed by our military.

It is both sides. Wyden is a (welcome) aberration (on this topic).

  • Obama wasn't always pro-surveillance though. He campaigned on ending the NSAs domestic spying program. Only after he was elected did he suddenly praise the NSA publicly and greatly expand their spying powers.

  • Yep, Obama is a mass murderer just like the rest of them. People tend to not care until the oppression comes home and is in plain view.

  • You're right, but bringing up the assassination of a terrorist just isn't convincing to a lot of people, regardless of it should be.

    Luckily there are other things that all reasonable people will find it hard to disagree with: The Obama government crackdown of Occupy Wall Street and his appointment of one of the fathers of the CIA torture program as NatSec Advisor, who promptly went on to jail whistleblowers of torture with Obama vouching for it.

  • What? The guy who was killed was actively committing violence and had done so multiple times before. Continuing to evade capture isn’t a get out of jail free card to keep evading the US and keep making bombs.

    The guy got more chances than the average US resident who would get shot by the cops for less

    • The guy who was killed was a propagandist. Also his children were killed.

      > The guy got more chances than the average US resident who would get shot by the cops for less

      Using violations of rights to justify more violations of rights. This makes a lot of sense!

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