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Comment by bigyabai

21 hours ago

The Linux community managed it. TPM isn't a hard requirement for Win11, Apple's SOCs are still in harmony with Windows' vision for computing.

To repeat myself, there is no valid technical reason that Apple cannot commit to documenting their platform for third-parties. People will complain, because it's an arbitrary choice on Apple's behalf to provide less transparent support than AMD, Intel or even the famously capricious Nvidia.

This has the knock-on effect of limiting macOS' exposure to third-party OS competition, enabling Apple to subsidize macOS support with SaaS offerings and advertisements. Apple customers have been increasingly asking for official Linux support on Apple Silicon, because macOS and iPadOS are not legitimate competitors to Windows or Linux. Apple Silicon is undoubtedly the second-class citizen of the PC world, and it's entirely Apple's choice to limit their hardware like that.

Thing you got wrong 1: TPM is a hard requirement. > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/devices...

Thing you got wrong 2: iPadOS is half the usage of tablet operating systems. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

  • TPM is not a hard requirement. You can run Windows 11 without a TPM, I'm doing it right now.

    iPadOS is not a legitimate competitor to Windows or Linux. It might be a competitor against Android tablets, but goddamn what a low bar that is.

    • The fact YOU can run Windows 11 without a TPM does not mean that a hardware manufacturer can just hand wave Microsoft's requirements. Point me in the direction of a manufacturer who ships code that bypasses the TPM for their devices.

      In OSes everything seems to be a zero-sum game to you. What the 2010s have demonstrated is that OSes can still carve markets for themselves. SteamOS, Android, Oculus, iPadOS, and the king of it all, iOS, have proven that to be relevant, you only need to create your own category. iPadOS is the only relevant tablet OS. Users expect iPadOS if you give them a tablet. Windows is irrelevant in that space.