Comment by myrmidon
2 hours ago
The bare SoC you can get for ~1.20€ in Germany:
https://www.reichelt.com/de/en/shop/product/esp32-c3_soc_wif...
But even paying 5-30€ for a devkit still seems insanely cheap to me; that's like several bars of chocolate at current prices, even kids can afford that (or make someone buy it for them).
There's no escaping the fact that EU fucked the hobbyists that previously were able to ship stuff not even made or available in EU at sane prices from china. I f I were to buy things I did in last 12 or so years based on current rules, I'd pay like 200% on customs/taxes and bullshit charges like 3+EUR per made up category on invoice or whatever it's now.
Hopefully, it will put a downwards price pressure on middlemen/resellers, now that buying directly is prohibitively expensive.
>There's no escaping the fact that EU fucked the hobbyists that previously were able to ship stuff not even made or available in EU at sane prices from china.
EU doesn't care about hobbyists, it cares about protecting the interests of the monopolies of the major retailers, who disliked that people could order the same Chinese shit they sell at 100x markups, directly from China, and cutting them off as middle-men.
But don't worry, in their heads, this way we'll get to on-shore our HW/electronics manufacturing industry back. Any day now. I can already see the factories pumping out ESP32s "Made in the EU", popping up everywhere across the EU, creating jobs and a competitive electronics industry. Alarm clock buzzes
>bullshit charges like 3+EUR per made up category
Add 2€ to that for the new handling fee from 1st November onward.
It would be cool if the EU would also find ways to create value to the economy, instead of just adding more taxe that fuck it.
>The bare SoC you can get for ~1.20€ in Germany:
Obviously, in the context of hobbyists at home, we were talking about the ESP32 SBCs, and not the bare solderable chips themselves.
>But even paying 5-30€ for a devkit still seems insanely cheap to me
Yeah but I wanted to know if the 1,50 price is realistic since it's quite a big difference, 200%+, between those two price ranges.
If price differences didn't matter for hobbyists, then Arduino wouldn't have been killed, and ESP32 taken over the world.
Clearly both people and businesses are highly price sensitive, especially in the current economy.
>that's like several bars of chocolate at current prices, even kids can afford that (or make someone buy it for them).
Needless whataboutism straying from my point, as with such line of reasoning, you can justify anything that's bad: "Getting punched in the balls isn't so bad, because you could always get cancer which is much worse."