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Comment by DanielHB

4 hours ago

When I worked with medium-sized scale batteries one of the most surprising use-cases was to use them _together_ with diesel generators. Diesel generators are incredibly wasteful because they don't vary the power output / fuel-consumption very well based on demand.

When you couple a large battery with a diesel generator the generator turns off when the battery is full so the generator always run at optimal efficiency.

I feel like this is one of those things that isn’t surprising to Factorio players

  • Factorio power generators always run at 100% efficiency, so it is not really the same thing, you still consume the same amount of coal if you have batteries or not.

    I guess it applies for nuclear power if you do that jank thing to not put fuel cells unless you need power. But then it is a thermal battery...

Yep, this is the fully hybrid electric path. Generators work much more efficiently when ran at a fixed RPM.

  • Not just fixed but most engineers design with UL standards so while they advertise maximum output they're all most efficient somewhere around 80% their maximum.

    The batteries help the grid because they can maintain a minimum demand the power plants need and compensate for any excess demand that would tax the grid infrastructure.

    I've never tested a generator, are they all producing pure sine waves?

  • Unless its a Chevy Volt. That was a really interesting car in many ways, but they kneecapped fuel efficiency by eating transformer losses twice instead of licensing Toyota patents.