Comment by Dylan16807
2 hours ago
AV1? It's mainstream already. Lots of hardware supports it and you don't need hardware support for many other cases.
2 hours ago
AV1? It's mainstream already. Lots of hardware supports it and you don't need hardware support for many other cases.
Mainstream? The most popular hardware streaming device (Nvidia shield) does not even support it, so I wouldnt call it mainstream.
Nvidia Shield is hardly the most popular anything. Roku has 43% of the market and Amazon has 35%.
Would be interesting to see if we could segment third-party from TV-embedded (see quote), but the metrics from the article seem to reflect actual consumer usage, as most consumers just use what comes in the TV they buy nowadays.
> This reflects a consolidated approach and eliminates yet another device in the home, and it’s catching on, as just 34% consider streaming media players as their primary viewing device. Meanwhile, 56% said the same for smart TVs.
https://www.cepro.com/news/roku-amazon-lead-streaming-media-...
Interesting you bring up Roku as a main comparison, as only the Roku Ultra device has AV1 support and that is via DASH only:
https://developer.roku.com/dev/docs/media
So if you are saying Roku has 43% of the market, I would consider that as support for my point that AV1 is not that widely supported.
Nvidia hasn't released a new model of the Shield since 2019. The current Apple TV model, Google TV model, Roku model, Fire TV, and Onn models support AV1.
I would not consider the ancient Nvidia shield the "most popular" streaming device.
Niche luxury products aren't exactly mainstream either
I guess it depends on your definition of the words niche and luxury.
My $100 NUC has AV1 hardware decoder support.
Maybe a device from 2019 is a bad data point
av1_nvenc exists therefore it's mainstream :)
Isn't the latest shield hardware 7 year old at this point? Only one year newer than AV1 itself
Sorry, but YouTube began thermal throttling on a Firestick the moment they started forcing AV1 regardless of the presence of on-device hardware support.
Then that particular model doesn't support it properly. I don't think that changes my point.
If the common hardware customers already have fails when you attempt to use a newer codec (but works fine otherwise), that can't be said to be a mainstream codec yet.
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