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Comment by sphars

7 hours ago

Some recent alternatives/successors/forks that are in the same vein as Pico

- Nimble: https://leftium.github.io/nimble.css/demo/pico.html

- Sumi.css: https://vladocar.github.io/Sumi.css/docs.html

- Blades: https://github.com/anyblades/blades

- Oat: https://oat.ink/

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potato-peeler  4 hours ago

None of them work on older browser - https://ibb.co/album/3kJP50

Ios 13.6 in my case, which was released just 6 yrs ago, 2020. For some context, flexbox gap was added in ios14.1, released in 2021. So iOS 13.6 was still usable atleast couple of years beyond that. So such frameworks utterly failing on such browsers is hilarious, given that they market themselves as minimal.

People keep forgetting that css3 was announced in 1999. And adoption roughly started from 2010. The css3 of that time is not the same as css3 you get to see in latest browsers. These minimal css frameworks are really useless if you don’t know what css3 features you are writing and who you are targeting.

And, I Haven’t even tested those in less capable browsers like dillo or netsurf, but I doubt they will even work there.

If you start looking into browser market share, you will quickly realise that there are millions of worldwide users who can’t use the web normally.

  • hnlmorg  2 hours ago

    > So such frameworks utterly failing on such browsers is hilarious, given that they market themselves as minimal.

    Minimal is an entirely different property to backwards compatibility.

    • potato-peeler  2 hours ago

      When you say something is minimal, you are implying that what little you provide will also work. Which in this case is clearly not.

      motherfuckingwebsite.com is more minimal and usable than these frameworks.

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  • Milpotel  2 hours ago

    > None of them work on older browser

    There are older browsers which still get security patches?

mikae1  4 hours ago

All of them failed my ten second evaluation. It's amazing how many mediocre CSS frameworks that are out there.