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Comment by selfhoster1312

5 hours ago

As a Star Trek fan, i had fun watching the Orville, but it was cringe on many occasions and i would not recommend it. I felt like it was a very conservative remake of Star Trek that missed the entire point of the series.

Male-female interactions were usually really weird, Bortus relation with his partner is equally anchored in this idea that in male homosexual relations one has to "play the woman part", and i felt overall that the series had much more of an imperialist human-centered worldview, much closer to Stargate than Star Trek (despite not remembering the details).

My #1 beef with the Orville was always that they couldn't write a B-plot. Some of those later seasons have a 60 minute episode, with no B-plot. South Park always has a B-plot in a 22 minute episode. TNG always had a B-plot.

It got less cringeworthy once they toned down the dated American culture references during the second season but, yeah, it's as if a homage to Star Trek were created by someone whose favourite Trek series was Enterprise.