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Comment by secondary_op

1 day ago

US CIA and US State Department Behind Serbia's "Student List" Media N1 and Nova S (United Group) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lwZU7Q5U0

    US government-funded pro-opposition outlet BIRN through its Media Ownership Monitor Serbia project admits the central Student List media channels - N1 and Nova S - were created by former US director of the CIA David Petraeus via KKR and former US Ambassador to Serbia Cameron Munter; 

    The parent United Group was acquired and the media platforms built up from 2013-2014 onward as the center of opposition media in Serbia opposing Serbia’s existing leadership and institutions, and playing a central role in both “student protests” last year and the “Student List” movement this year; 

    United Group was only recently (earlier this year) acquired by Alpac Capital, but KKR still maintains an undisclosed amount of shares 

with the move a likely an attempt to distance US involvement in the media network;

    When “leaderless” and “decentralized” protests are praised in the Western media, scroll down in the article where they eventually admit who the leaders and organizations are behind them, perform a simple internet search to identify the key people and investments making them possible to determine whether a movement is indigenous or the product of foreign interference;

Those two channels with limited cable availability had 0 to do with the extremely horizontal and leaderless Student List, that openly stated will do fuck all on the foreign front apart from stopping manufacturing of Israel’s drones. Btw since you’re “doing your own research” see who supported and even better who installed the former ruling party.

This channel is literally full of pro-Russian propaganda by a random guy in Bangkok. Show us a substantial source, if there is one.

Or are you simply reproducing a regime’s narrative on here?

  • All substantial sources are literally right there with links in video description, and he literally points at them in video.

    It is doubtful he is pro-Russian, but he is surely anti-US.

        Brian Berletic - an American industrial designer based in Bangkok, Thailand who has written under the pen name Tony Cartalucci
    

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNL4xoD5uMY

On the one hand, I have no doubt that the US and everyone else able would push their agenda in uncertain times. On the other, imagining that it is all CIA/FSB and so on denies agency to thousands of people who have put in the effort to change thier country.

  • Exactly. My fellow countrymen fucked my country (Brexit). Foreign meddling didn't help, but it also didn't hinder to the point of changing the outcome.

    It was my fellow countrymen, and their long held Eurosceptic views, that fucked us. Russia posting divisive pish in 2016 has nothing on our decades of native politicians and newspapers blaming Brussels for everything bad (often its their own policies being policywashed) and pretending everything good came from them.

  • > imagining that it is all CIA/FSB and so on denies agency to thousands of people who have put in the effort to change thier country

    You're looking at it from a very narrow minded point of view. Those agencies push their agenda in very meticulous ways through many channels. While it may seem that the people are merely exercising their agency and pushing for change, the _direction_ they're pushing towards is what's decided by the agencies, at the very least.

Sure jan, the country with an all time low in trust for institutions and academia ruled by an strongman-loving, education-bashing fascist is secretly funding meritocracies around the world…

Conspiracy drivel.

  • The US is famous for never intervening into other countries' politics. Other famous examples of no intervention in the area is their total non-involvement in Ukraine with Euromaidan protests for example!

    Conspiracy would be saying that the US orchestrated the existence of the Student's list and created protests from thin air. Realism is that the US is very happy about any political destabilization that could favor their interest and will provide unofficial support wherever it's convenient for them.

    • This conspiracy is certainly true anyway. It's not like we never saw real conspiracies, especially coming from the US.