It's still far cheaper, faster, and less wasteful to wash by hand. It's just that the technique required to achieve that is... controversial? It's definitely always so misrepresented you'd swear it's the "before" part of a 90s informercial shot in black and white with a frustrated idiot failing at a simple task before throwing their hands up and pleading that "there has to be a better way".
Dishwashers simply aren't used in places with water restrictions. Broke people don't have a budget for dishwashing detergent because it's less general purpose than dish soap. There are likely people who started using their dishwasher more or even suddenly bought one based on those rants. It jiggled the handle on consumer trends that otherwise rarely change, so I consider that "influence".
If he stuck to just explaining how they work instead of attacking people's way of living, it would have flown under the radar.
Did you mean to flag the parent comment I was replying to? These tangents rarely start with the replies. I do understand that the metadiscussion I'm bringing up is uncomfortable, though.
@tomhow, who you're replying to, is a HN mod - as such he rarely flags comments - flagging is a HN user action (for users with accounts of sufficient age and standing).
The mods are drawn to [flagged] comments to double check / inspect whether such a thing was warrented, if no one has made a comment as to why something was flagged they might have a guess, add that as a comment - or even reverse the flag.
If I had to guess, the comment you replied to was not flagged as it was a top level comment to be read with a generic non specific "you", however your comment was likely flagged as it appeared to some to have a judgemental tone toward another user - the "you" that you used was a specific non generic you with the comment parent as target.
FWiW I'm a rubber necking drive by user - I didn't flag your comment.
> The rants about dishwashers and HVAC were memorable for being completely impractical advice and ignorant of economics
How you got that message from hour long rants and findings about dishwashers I'll never now.
The main take aways I got were: - You might be using way too much soap - Run your tap until it is hot before starting the dishwasher
It's still far cheaper, faster, and less wasteful to wash by hand. It's just that the technique required to achieve that is... controversial? It's definitely always so misrepresented you'd swear it's the "before" part of a 90s informercial shot in black and white with a frustrated idiot failing at a simple task before throwing their hands up and pleading that "there has to be a better way".
Dishwashers simply aren't used in places with water restrictions. Broke people don't have a budget for dishwashing detergent because it's less general purpose than dish soap. There are likely people who started using their dishwasher more or even suddenly bought one based on those rants. It jiggled the handle on consumer trends that otherwise rarely change, so I consider that "influence".
If he stuck to just explaining how they work instead of attacking people's way of living, it would have flown under the radar.
> It's still far cheaper, faster, and less wasteful to wash by hand.
Citation please? https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/20798 links 2 sources that disagree with you.
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Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Did you mean to flag the parent comment I was replying to? These tangents rarely start with the replies. I do understand that the metadiscussion I'm bringing up is uncomfortable, though.
@tomhow, who you're replying to, is a HN mod - as such he rarely flags comments - flagging is a HN user action (for users with accounts of sufficient age and standing).
The mods are drawn to [flagged] comments to double check / inspect whether such a thing was warrented, if no one has made a comment as to why something was flagged they might have a guess, add that as a comment - or even reverse the flag.
If I had to guess, the comment you replied to was not flagged as it was a top level comment to be read with a generic non specific "you", however your comment was likely flagged as it appeared to some to have a judgemental tone toward another user - the "you" that you used was a specific non generic you with the comment parent as target.
FWiW I'm a rubber necking drive by user - I didn't flag your comment.
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