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Comment by latexr

4 days ago

> The obvious drawback is that according to his description, they aren't getting much done and neither are they producing quality work.

That’s not what the description says. Not being a rockstar does not mean being incompetent. They claimed (and let’s not forget this is one person’s account) the devwork of those people could be replaced with AI. Even assuming that is true, that does not mean their current work is bad or that they can’t improve, or that they don’t have other valuable skills.

The drawback you’re listing there, in addition to being dubious, seems to be exclusively for the owners of the company. What about the workers?

> This would check out with the fact that there aren't many software products or platforms made in Germany, compared to say the US or China.

Good. I don’t think the software products coming from the US and the culture of exploiting people for profit are a net positive for humanity. I’d rather not have those companies, so a system which prevents that from happening is working as it should.

> Even the best benefits do arguably not make up for receiving $2500 net at the end of the month compared to $8k in the US.

Happiness reports disagree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

You don‘t need to earn a lot of money when your basic needs are met. Like not worrying that a sudden illness will bankrupt you.

> And I get what you are saying about work life balance and so on, but if one cannot even be bothered to try a $20 AI subscription at home, there must be about zero passion for the craft.

Why must that be the way? Perhaps they instead believe they can and should improve in other ways, including understanding that you can’t learn without doing, and delegating your tasks to LLMs prevents you from doing so. Seems very strange to claim that the programmer who does not use AI is the one lacking passion for the craft.

>You don‘t need to earn a lot of money when your basic needs are met

But your basic needs are not going to be met if your country drifts into poverty.

You will not have access to the best cancer drugs for instance. You are going to watch your loved ones die from preventable causes while richer people survive.

Europe cannot afford to miss technology wave after technology wave using inequality in the US as an excuse. Poverty causes fear, suffering and conflict.

>The drawback you’re listing there, in addition to being dubious, seems to be exclusively for the owners of the company

I don't think staying at the top of your game (or getting there) is only for the benefit of employers. I understood the comment as advice from a senior colleague talking to juniors who were headed for disaster.

Caring about your own education, productivity and employability is not a gift to employers. On the contrary, it puts you in a better negotiating position vis-a-vis employers.

  • You could have heard the same arguments about cryptos a few years back.

    • My arguments are not about any specific technology.

      But in a very roundabout way you are right. You have to take some risks and do some things that may not work out. Otherwise you're not going to be participating in anything useful either.

I think you're being disingenuous. It was clear from the comment that the devs described as "quite junior" and unmotivated are not delivering.

The differences in our opinion seem to come from different beliefs about capitalism, environmental impact of data centers, and in general the usefulness of AI and how it should be applied.