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Comment by Betelbuddy

1 day ago

>> People just give them money as a business model.

You dont actually give them money...you loan them money when you do a deposit. That is why they pay you interest, and that comes with the risk of loans to another party.

A little detail they are happy to omit and they are happy to let people talk about: "I have money in the bank", that you of course ...dont have.

At least in the US most banks are FDIC insured so your first $250k or so in deposits are secured by the government.

There's no real risk involved.

  • Incorrect-ish. 12 U.S.C. § 1821(f)(1) states that payment shall be made by the FDIC "as soon as possible," but as my sister-the-lawyer has always been at pains to point out to me, the most up-to-date specific language is from 2016's 81 Federal Register 87734, 87735, section B, which explicitly states that they "[do] not specify a time period for paying insured depositors." In other words, if it's a tiny bank failure you might get lucky and get made whole in a few business days, but if it's something larger, they can choose to meet their regulatory obligations over the course of decades - which is very much real risk.

    • Most banks also don't have cash on hand if you want to go in and walk back out the door with a large life savings. The fact that large sums are not instantly liquid isn't especially worrysome.

      It'll be a hardship if a bank does liquidate and the FDIC takes some time to reimburse everyone involved, but that's better than not getting anything at all.

    • I mean, I get it, but that would destroy any credibility of the insurance, and would undermine the whole point of the system.

      I trust the FDIC to be far more johnny on the spot to resolve a liquidity issue than I do any private entity

  • The existence of the FDIC is in itself, the proof there is risk involved :-)

    As of June 2026, the FDIC had approximately $161 billion in its insurance fund against...drum roll... $10.8 trillion in insured deposits.

    Good luck calling on your insurance on a systemic bank crisis....

    • Even when the current funds available are insufficient, it can borrow from the federal government or issue debt to cover the insured deposits.

      A situation which calls that borrowing capability into question would mean the economy is so bad the dollar is worthless.

    • This particular insurer is unlike others because it can ultimately edit entries in a database whenever it wants. As long as you are part of the group that is considered worth editing the database for, such as a depositor at one of the too-big-to-fail banks, then you have nothing to worry about.

The interest rate banks pay you has been 0% since before covid

  • This is a thread about a EU bank, and banks in the EU both have some standard interest rate on savings accounts, and moreover might offer time-restricted savings accounts with an even higher rate. That said, they track poorly with inflation compared to actual investment.

  • Zero is also a number, although not all Mathematicians accept that. 0% interest does not change the essence of the monetary relationship with your bank, or the risk profile.

  • I have been able to easily find a US bank that pays roughly SOFR minus 25 basis points for FDIC insured savings accounts, even before 2020.

I don’t know of any bank that hides the fact they lend out money. Most pretty actively advertise it.

  • Technically true I suppose. But go ask the average person on the street where the bank gets the money they lend people for mortgages and cars and such and I guarantee you the number of people that make that connection is going to be much much smaller than you seem to want to suggest.

    • It doesn't actually work the way it's portrayed in It's a Wonderful Life. The banks don't use depositor money to make loans. I suspect you will think what they actually do is even worse. Look into fractional reserve banking.

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  • >> I don’t know of any bank that hides the fact they lend out money.

    Absolutely true. They question here is how many announce they are borrowing from you :-)

    • Why else would they be paying us interest for the privilege of providing us with banking services? I know that the real answer is because the government tells them they have to (do both, provide banking services and pay interest) because we've decided it's a social good to provide people with savings accounts and incentivize them to use them, but anyone that knows that knows how banks work.

      Why do people who don't know how banks work think they get paid interest on their savings?

    • This is like those articles that say, "[entity] quietly [doing totally normal thing]" to frame it like it's some devious thing.

      That's what banks do. It's not a secret. Any cursory understanding of banking gives you that information.

Well, you're probably going to be very disappointed when you learn how money works in general these days.

Hint: Gold has no more to do with it than any other commodity does. Ditto with petroleum.