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Comment by jedberg

1 day ago

> unsupervised autopilot

They are running a fleet of taxis around the Bay Area. It's kind of scary because they aren't that safe, given the lack of LIDAR. But they are doing it anyway.

They all have someone behind the wheel. Tesla doesn't have a driverless permit in the Bay Area.

  • Yes, they have safety drivers for now, but they are still running them as an autonomous fleet.

    And also, they are driving fully autonomous in Texas and Florida.

Photogrammetry + AI has developed to the degree, that there are 3D scanning apps on iPhone that don't even use the Lidar when available, so you can certainly make do without and get comparable results.

A fleet of hundreds of cars, right? Maybe even thousands including Austin? All with no LIDAR, and operating perhaps up to 18 hours a day?

So then where are all the horrible accidents if they're not safe?

Why do you assume lidar is must for safety. So far the Tesla auto pilot record is better than human drivers

  • Because less then ideal conditions for vision exist? Heavy snow/rain/fog, sun shining into cameras at dawn and dusk etc

    It’s not hard to be better then an average human generally, the issue is liability as when a driverless taxi hits or hurts someone you can’t just go “but we are safer then human drivers!”