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Comment by Kevin_Flynn

5 hours ago

> where is the proof?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_industry_price_fixing

To date, five manufacturers have pleaded guilty to their involvement in an international price-fixing conspiracy between July 1, 1998, and June 15, 2002, including Hynix, Infineon, Micron Technology, Samsung, and Elpida.[3]

re "what proof means": Im not your house boy. Go get it yourself.

proof ... the thing a narcissist demands from you, but will never acknowledge having received.

its a good lever when it works.

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HFguy  5 hours ago

If someone asserts something without proof, then it can be dismissed.

Simple as that.

If I said all donuts are spaceships, readers are not obligated to go and google it.

  • MadameMinty  4 hours ago

    Treating the 4th time the same conspiracy would be happening—after 3 previous times proven to be true—as a nutty conspiracy theory is itself nutty. Detached from reality.

    You're free to doubt it, it's not absolutely certain, but pretending the chance is near zero is just not even remotely as rational as you seem to think.

  • Kevin_Flynn  5 hours ago

    Its an equivocation fallacy.

    Theres never any "proof."

    Theres no "proof" on the internet.

    All we ever have is "evidence," and varying degrees of trust or mistrust in it.

    Reality ... always good for downvotes.

  • Lerc  4 hours ago

    If I said water was wet you are not obliged to Google it either. If someone continues to assert that water cannot make you wet even after being informed that water makes things wet because they hadn't been provided proof, and they didn't bother to check, that might be on them.

  • altmanaltman  5 hours ago

    Hynix is charged with carrying out the conspiracy by:

      * Participating in meetings, conversations, and communications in the United States and elsewhere to discuss the prices of DRAM to be sold to certain customers;

  * Agreeing, during those meetings, conversations, and communications, to charge prices of DRAM at certain levels to be sold to certain customers;

  * Issuing price quotations in accordance with the agreements reached; and

  * Exchanging information on sales of DRAM to certain customers, for the purpose of monitoring and enforcing adherence to the agreed-upon prices.

  * Under the plea agreement which must be approved by the court, Hynix has agreed to cooperate with the government in its ongoing investigation of other DRAM producers.

    KOREAN COMPANY--HYNIX--AGREES TO PLEAD GUILTY TO PRICE FIXING AND AGREES TO PAY $185 MILLION FINE FOR ROLE IN DRAM CONSPIRACY

    US DOJ link: https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2005/April/05_at_207....

    This is remarkably different than someone claiming donuts are spaceships when the company itself was charged and pleaded guilty, and it's a matter of public record.

high_na_euv  3 hours ago

the fuck you talking about?

just asked about some kind of proof when world is full of conspiracy theories, nothing wrong with that, so stop being aggressive and snarky

and i knew about stuff from 2000, but thought there was something recent