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Comment by Marsymars

2 hours ago

> There's more housing than people.

I don’t think this is really true. It’s naively true if you just look at the number of homeless people vs the number of empty units, but misses:

1. That markets need some portion of empty units for fluidity.

2. That many people aren’t homeless, but living in situations where they would take more housing if it was available. (Living with roommates, ex-partners, family, etc.)

3. Many places simply don’t have enough housing for everyone who wants to live there. If they did, people would move from other places.

You know, this is actual economic orthodoxy. The government is supposed to stimulate the productive economy (the part that's not rent-seeking like landlords) by causing inflation by overpaying it's employees (and hire). Which then forces private employers to pay more and causes high inflation. Why? This haircuts existing debts, both public and private and is very bad for rent-seeking, and good for anyone productive (making money).

Of course, that also shows the problem: it haircuts pensions as well, since they are a large part of the rent seeking class.

  • There are other good reasons to have a reasonable amount of inflation.

    If inflation is too low or doesn’t exist, then there’s less incentive to do anything with your money. If I have bunch a money that I don’t need to spend immediately, and I just want to keep it secure, why would I not keep it in a safe or non-investment account if it’s not losing value over time? What’s my incentive to risk it by lending it out to someone else?

    Sure, I could say that my incentive is the interest rate, but my alternative is zero risk. Inflation turns “zero risk” into being more like a certainty of slow value loss, so that holders of capital are incentivized to do something at least minimally risky with that money (e.g., lend it to the government in the form of treasury bonds or deposit it into an insured bank account).

    Debt has something of a bad reputation and obviously it can be overused and abused, but it’s also something that helps the efficiency of economies. It maximizes the amount of money actively participating in the economy rather than sitting.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the role of datacenters in this entire comment section. I should know better, I guess.